Project RiverRat II

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Bling indeed!!! Is that Jet-hot coated?

No! it's just polished like my handlebars,turnplate and flywheel cover. It only took him 2 hours and it looks like it was just chromed!:bigeyes: I personally wouldn't trust getting a cylinder jet coated

BTW that cylinder will be sitting on a nice little 10mm!!:cool2: :woot:
 

RiverRat

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No! it's just polished like my handlebars,turnplate and flywheel cover. It only took him 2 hours and it looks like it was just chromed!:bigeyes: I personally wouldn't trust getting a cylinder jet coated

BTW that cylinder will be sitting on a nice little 10mm!!:cool2: :woot:

Nice!! I went over my cylinder w/ various grits of sand paper to remove casting marks and just clean it up. The polishing looks awesome. Jet-hot would look nice but I agree that it is risky on a cylinder. Plus want to cylinder to radiate and disipate the heat, not hold it in.

10mm :bigeyes: I see you have been bitten by the flatwater backflip bug :biggrin: I have a gp800 motor I have plans for but that is for anouther time. A buddy of mine just bought a WDK 1200 (or I should say ordered one) and I want to see how that platform performs.
 

RoyalFlush@PCB

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10mm :bigeyes: I see you have been bitten by the flatwater backflip bug :biggrin: I have a gp800 motor I have plans for but that is for anouther time. A buddy of mine just bought a WDK 1200 (or I should say ordered one) and I want to see how that platform performs.

You should say "ordered" unless he has it in his possession...:biggthumpup:

I kid, I kid....:smile: :biggrin: :smile:
 

RiverRat

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You should say "ordered" unless he has it in his possession...:biggthumpup:

I kid, I kid....:smile: :biggrin: :smile:

Hopefully he comes through with his motor soon, I want to ride a 1200 :Banane01: Of course one I ride thatkind of power it might make it difficult to get back on my boat. Then again since both are non existant at this point that statement is purly hypothetical :biggrin:
 

RiverRat

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got any pics of the new hull?

Nope.....same old sh** different day. I am achually very peeved right now. I have seen guys that ordered their hull after the daytona ride get their boats when I ordered mine in late September. This ski better be unbelieveable. I think I am one of WDK biggest supporters; just thought I would have gotten a little more consideration than this. Ski will not be at the GA ride. It is now 2 months over due from when I would have preferred it here for assembly and I can't be backed into a corner anymore.
 
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wow ! this is a rollercoaster ride ! I feel for you guys ! its just bad bussiness to not be on time or have a reasonable excuse when your not ! If you gave me that much money I would at least keep in close contact with the buyer .... IMO !
 

douglee25

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Nope.....same old sh** different day. I am achually very peeved right now. I have seen guys that ordered their hull after the daytona ride get their boats when I ordered mine in late September. This ski better be unbelieveable. I think I am one of WDK biggest supporters; just thought I would have gotten a little more consideration than this. Ski will not be at the GA ride. It is now 2 months over due from when I would have preferred it here for assembly and I can't be backed into a corner anymore.

Did I just hear you say that? :biggrin:

Doug
 
Nope.....same old sh** different day. I am achually very peeved right now. I have seen guys that ordered their hull after the daytona ride get their boats when I ordered mine in late September. This ski better be unbelieveable. I think I am one of WDK biggest supporters; just thought I would have gotten a little more consideration than this. Ski will not be at the GA ride. It is now 2 months over due from when I would have preferred it here for assembly and I can't be backed into a corner anymore.

From what i read you are his number one suporter.I cant believe hes giving you the run around.I hope you have it this summer. Not trying to joke about wdk but didnt you sell your other hull. It would really suck not to ride this summer. i hope he comes through and doesnt tell you the same thing mikes been told for past year or so.good luck
 

RiverRat

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RiverRat's B-pipe Modification​

I am going to test this modification further but the theroy is promising. I like to run a hot exhaust system but am always affraid of melting a hose here or there. Like wise I don't like the number of bends that the exhaust makes between the end of the expansion chamber and the outlet on the waterbox. To many in a short length. In addition to that, I don't care for the 2in od of the expansion chamber opening up into a 2.5in waterbox inlet............increasing pipe diameter should decrese velocity.........then you injetct water into the exhaust, which decreases the exhaust temp, further slowing down the flow. This modification should keep the flow velocity up, decrease the number of bends and allow you to run hotter exhaust temps w/o fear of a meltdown.

I am going to start by using a PJS waterbox (loud) while I am waiting on my X-metal waterbox to get back from the welder. For the x-jet I am not going to have the battery mounted in the OEM location. Instead it will be mounted in the bulkhead. If this proves to be too nose light, I will have enough room to mount the battery in the OEM waterbox location, so I will have room for further balencing the ski. This will also allow for easy battery maintance as the kart gas tank can be removed quickly.

Mandrel Bends

The way current exhausts are set up is they make a 45 degree into the waterbox, then a sharp 90 up, the a anouther sharp 90 to the front and/or back, and then out the rear of the ski. On this exhaust it will have 2 90 degree bends at the front but they will be swept on a 6in radius via a 2in pipe, then into the waterbox where it will exit a 45 degree transition (2.0 to 2.25) and meet anouther 45 degree transition coupler (2.25 to 2.5) where it will attach to the exhaust tube that exits to the rear of the ski. Essentially all I am doing to smoothing out the flow and keeping the velocity up.
 

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#ZERO

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Nice work… I think this setup would scream on the top end but I'm not sure it would keep the water out of the chamber when doing freestyle stunts. If this works you should sell this as a kit and who cares about how much noise it's going to make?

What's the inside of that PJS waterbox look like and how well does it keep the water out of the chamber?
 

Matt_E

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What's the inside of that PJS waterbox look like and how well does it keep the water out of the chamber?

I've got one, too - and let me tell you, there isn't much in there. It's a straight pipe made to look like a muffler. :haha:
Seriously, straight pipe (2inch ID I think) with a water jacket with holes around the center section.
 

RiverRat

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Nice work… I think this setup would scream on the top end but I'm not sure it would keep the water out of the chamber when doing freestyle stunts. If this works you should sell this as a kit and who cares about how much noise it's going to make?

What's the inside of that PJS waterbox look like and how well does it keep the water out of the chamber?

I am doing some cool mods to the X-metal box that will allow it to do in place of the PJS box. I am also going to test to see if perhaps a 2.25in pipe yeilds better performance. As far as the water running back into the chamber, if you are running a pretty dry exhaust and water is injected into the waterbox directly you should still keep the bulk of the water in that location. The way I see it you might be able to get away with not running water to the pisser and just inject it into the waterbox. The bends will be ceramic coated as well and that will allow for those hotter temps to be run. I have anouther little trick that I will not reveal yet that will virtuall eliminate all exposure of the silicone to the hot exhaust........so you will not have to worry about melting a hose! The new inlet on the x-metal box will have a 1.25in lip around it on the inside and be mounted high to prevent back flow.
 
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#ZERO

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Have you seen the top secret :sneaky: Team Scream limited pipe modification that chuck's using on his skis? He uses a different diameter exhaust outlet and welds a shield around it to keep the water from coming back into the chamber. It looks like a great idea and it uses the same 2-1/4" outside diameter hose as the stock waterbox.

I might be running something like this soon, with a custom water box and aluminum tubing.
 

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RiverRat

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Team Scream are some smart guys w/ great power making tips and tricks. I have not seen their mods and don't want to copy their stuff. The way I want to set it up the mandrel bends will essentially be a extension of the expansion chamber and water will be injected into the waterbox after the fact. Maybe if this tests well I can see if we can work something out with X-metal and Team Scream for a production run on this idea.......thats justa hypothetical though.
 

RiverRat

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Got confirmation that the hull did ship today..........so did yours Mike!!!! Talked to Curry as the truck was pulling up to load 4 crates. Being shipped economy through PilotAir. 4-5 day transit time or less
 
Got confirmation that the hull did ship today..........so did yours Mike!!!! Talked to Curry as the truck was pulling up to load 4 crates. Being shipped economy through PilotAir. 4-5 day transit time or less

i hope you got a genuine tracking number and photos i dint think id take his word after all this.
 

RiverRat

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i hope you got a genuine tracking number and photos i dint think id take his word after all this.

I had a pretty straight forward conversation with him. I think he could tell I was pretty adjitated (which is sometimes difficult b/c I am a pretty mellow guy). I don't think that he will be building prepreg x-jets or f1-pro's anytime soon. Both my ski and Mike's F1 are one off custom ski's and he expressed no desire to ever build them again. The F1 is just nuts and the x-jet is a 2 peice mold that is a PIA to lay up in prepreg b/c of the handlepole bracket area.

When he designed the REV he did all that with prepreg in mind and I think he just has a better system down for their construction. Looks to me like he can produce a REV (in glass or prepreg glass) allot easier than the X-jet. He has a team of guys that he has trained to do certain parts of each build in the composite shop, but the pre-preg stuff is all Jeff and he stay busy all the time.....which is why he has been hard to contact via phone.

Needless to say I did get confirmation that the hull is in transit. Just crossing my fingers that everything goes smooth from here on out. If I get a call saying they have the wrong address and the ski is in limbo I think I am just going to snap :biggrin:
 
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