Custom/Hybrid Superfreak Review - Ride, Buying Experience, Quality

Matt_E

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I'm not going to quote you on it, because RRP's track record for handling these issues is already well established and it's not good.
Lightweight.de hulls have been around for 7-8 years now, btw
 

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I'm not going to quote you on it, because RRP's track record for handling these issues is already well established and it's not good.
Lightweight.de hulls have been around for 7-8 years now, btw

Oh really?? I only thought 2-3 years max. Suprising there are not more around but the price tag may be one of the deterrents.

It's hard to find a ski that will perform well in surf and flat without spending a lot of money on a big motor. But that's the way anything is, always a give and take.

I would love to play on a Superfreak and lightweight.de for a weekend in the Surf/Flat with similar motor/pump setups.
 

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The Lightweight Revolution has been around for only a couple of years, but Norbert built a hull before that. It was a "Super-Superjet" of very high quality. He didn't make very many of them. But Marc Sickerling did ride one in surf and on flat for seven years without a single crack.

I can't comment on the Lightweight's performance because I haven't tried one (would love to, though).
I will say this: I bought my Freak as a flatwater boat. My motor setup is fairly stout for what it is and I have a very light hull. I was stunned with how well the hull performs in surf. I couldn't wish for any better handling, personally.
 
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The Lightweight Revolution has been around for only a couple of years, but Norbert built a hull before that. It was a "Super-Superjet" of very high quality. He didn't make very many of them. But Marc Sickerling did ride one in surf and on flat for seven years without a single crack.

I can't comment on the Lightweight's performance because I haven't tried one (would love to, though).
I will say this: I bought my Freak as a flatwater boat. My motor setup is fairly stout for what it is and I have a very light hull. I was stunned with how well the hull performs in surf. I couldn't wish for any better handling, personally.
And on a side note, you beat the crap outa it and it looks great!
 
The RRP Factory is offshore, but RRP is actually based in Canada. The Quality out of the new factory (Feb. 2011) is excellent with very few issues, mainly delivery times which are on track now. (sorry about cutting in on the thread) The Sfreak is an excellent ski also in my opinion, great product from Tem.

I know it's an expensive sport and you get what you pay for. To be honest, I was very impressed with the lightweight.de hulls. It is a top notch quality built hull but like you said that's on a whole different tier but well worth it though. It is still new so I am still keeping a close eye on the lightweight.de as it's tested.

Tem seems like a stand up guy and would take care of issues. RRP is based offshore but has dealers in the U.S. which I am sure could handle issues, but don't quote me on that.
 

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The RRP Factory is offshore, but RRP is actually based in Canada. The Quality out of the new factory (Feb. 2011) is excellent with very few issues, mainly delivery times which are on track now. (sorry about cutting in on the thread) The Sfreak is an excellent ski also in my opinion, great product from Tem.

I think Rickter now have is own factory and i think that RRP products are made in Québec.
 
well if buying USA based products means anything to you at all? or dealing with the guy that makes the hull,and WILL warranty it for sure,Vs a ? on rather it will be warrantied at all through some dealer down the food chain on a hull that was made by some unknown Asian dude who could be workin on his 1st or 100th hull. that alone is enough,but add durability and lighter weight and less expensive as facts and maybe even better riding as a opinion and the choice is pretty clear.

Id agree though fit and finish should be great as well for a ski of this caliber costing that much,I thought I heard Tim was offering sglass hulls for decent price sub 100 lb hull and hood already painted,but i havnt seen one though.I dont really have a horse in the race,I ride a sj.but if I ever get a chance to test a surf model I may switch myself,still not sure how I feel about a flat riding boat,I kinda like railing turns in surf with a sj,how do the Sf riders feel about the hull in the surf,with steep turns and railing and slashing waves? I know the fs2 does this very well from prev personal tests.
 

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Hull does absolutely awesome in surf. I have a couple of detailed surf riding review posts in this very thread.
It does not turn flat, it rails great and is awesome for slashing. Anything the FR2 does, but better and more effortless.
 
Matt you haven't happened to try your freak yet with an SJ ride plate I am very interested to see how it rides with one. I ride primarily flatwater and do a lot of racing around with my uncle and his buddies and I am just wondering how well the freak carves with a different ride plate on it thanks for the info
 

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I carves alright with the plate I got on it, but people tell me that i carves even better with a longer plate. Haven't tried it, though. Sorry.
 
I carves alright with the plate I got on it, but people tell me that i carves even better with a longer plate. Haven't tried it, though. Sorry.

Oh no worries I was just curious if you had because I think you mentioned that you were going to try and see if you could test it but I just thought that I missed the post where you talked about testing it. Great review by the way!
 

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well if buying USA based products means anything to you at all? or dealing with the guy that makes the hull,and WILL warranty it for sure,Vs a ? on rather it will be warrantied at all through some dealer down the food chain on a hull that was made by some unknown Asian dude who could be workin on his 1st or 100th hull. that alone is enough,but add durability and lighter weight and less expensive as facts and maybe even better riding as a opinion and the choice is pretty clear.

Id agree though fit and finish should be great as well for a ski of this caliber costing that much,I thought I heard Tim was offering sglass hulls for decent price sub 100 lb hull and hood already painted,but i havnt seen one though.I dont really have a horse in the race,I ride a sj.but if I ever get a chance to test a surf model I may switch myself,still not sure how I feel about a flat riding boat,I kinda like railing turns in surf with a sj,how do the Sf riders feel about the hull in the surf,with steep turns and railing and slashing waves? I know the fs2 does this very well from prev personal tests.


stevepwc has a glass one that was made for aircraftsalz
seen some photage of it in surf. ask him how it rides.
 

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My freak is sglass with a carbon hood. Total weight was around 84-85# with nose, exhaust and scupper. Mines not a badass though. Same bottom/diff top
 
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Ive rode 4 freaks total 3 in flats and 1 in the surf,My impression was they were purpose built flatwater freestyle boats,that were awesome for freestyle,turned very flat,super short poles,skis were only comfortable when riding nose high,when ya gased them and they flattened out,you were leaning over and super uncomfortable for me.but they were all badass type hulls,made for flats,they are like -5 or something? I only got to ride a carbon full length surf model in flats.Someone broke the pole before I could get a surf ride on it in tona. In flats the surf hull would not rail a turn at all for me,it felt SUPER stable though all most like a gyroscope effect,Tim said the back of the bond rail was rockered and a few inches lower than the sj. It seemed to me when you tried to rail carve a turn it would force you back straight up. I think id like the bond rail a bit higher in the back, believe he said that was possible to do.
 

Matt_E

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It turns different than a Superjet. Once you figure it out, it's pretty easy. I find it to be an awesome surf boat. I was initially worried than a 56 lb hull wouldn't work well in surf. I was wrong.
You need to put weight on the inside of the turn and the back.
There is no problem at speed for me, either. :dunno: I ride mine up to low 50's with more stability than an SXR. Not sure what you were experiencing there. Never heard anyone else expressing those sentiments.
 
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With the rear rocker, it's mandatory to shift your weight to the inside foothold. If you let off a bit and shift towards the outside the ski will start a flat slide...almost like a 180 slide. Once you're planted with weight on the inside the ski will turn and go. I like the ability to merely shift weight on the rear of the ski change your exit that quickly. It's especially noticable if your riding surf stance since that lightens up the rear.
 
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.Someone broke the pole before I could get a surf ride on it in tona. .

that was me sorry:shhh:

i only got to ride 3 in daytona chop lol . i really liked coreys one (all orange) just felt at home straight away . the second one i rode was the orange and black one with the curved rear. for me in those conditions it felt really skittish/slidy when trying to surf a wave ,im sure i would have got used to it with a bit of time . the black one was ultra stable but still felt light just turned slower than the others imo none of them really did that straight into a tail stand thing as soon as your off the power you find with alot of am hulls . i also rolled all 3 with ease. out of all the hulls i tried, and i really got about ! i felt most comfortable on these . i really wanted to flip one even more so than the xfs but im not confident with flips and it was pretty shallow i decided not to incase i broke it .
 
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