Big Kahuna
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The inevitable total loss woes(now with pics)
- Thread starter McDog
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John thinks the coil is bad. He tried to repair it but said it was gonna be iffy. Maybe I'll "borrow" my buddy's coil and see if it works before I try switching out the ignition.
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Now that sounds more reasonable and is quite possibly the whole problem.Your MSD should be able to fire the stock coil also if you want to use it to check your ski out with.I will be using a stock SEADOO coil on my MSD setup.
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Yes, it will fire the stock coil. If that doesn't work though, don't kill yourself chasing nexted problems. Get the OEM ignition in there and get it running as best as you can and then afterwards you can play with TL.
Also, you didn't mention it, but you are still running a small 0.020-0.025" gap on your plugs, right? Some people assume that they can instantly jump up to a huge gap with the addition of TL and if you have bad coil/wires with a huge plug gap you will never fire correctly.
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Will using the stock coil give me less performance than the MSD? Just wondering.
Yes, same plug gap. As a matter of fact, I pulled them from my other running superjet so that I could fine tune the carbs with used plugs instead of new ones.
Yes, same plug gap. As a matter of fact, I pulled them from my other running superjet so that I could fine tune the carbs with used plugs instead of new ones.
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Right now you aren't getting any performance.
If the OEM coil does give less, it won't be noticeable. The bigger benefit of TL is just that, the TL.
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To my knowledge it won't make that much difference,if you have a known good stock coil thats what I would try first,for sure a good stock coil is better than a weak MSD coil.
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I meant for later, after I have found the problem. Is it worth the $ to buy another MSD coil or could I keep using the stock with no noticable performance difference?
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MMMMMMMM baby steps man baby steps,lets get it running correctly first,then worry about any performance issues.
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Well, I'm working late today so all I can do is talk about it.
crammit442
makin' legs
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I don't believe you'll notice a difference. Run the OE coil. When you mount it to your plate make sure to use a couple of spacers/standoffs between the mounting tabs and plate or you'll break them off when you tighten it down. It'll run fine and as a rule the MSD coils are NOT repairable.
waxhead
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you will not notice a difference if you run the oem coil
The benefit of the total loss is the lite flywheel and the better curve
you will still get a better spark than a stock ignition
its the cdi that gives the spark strength not the coil
The benefit of the total loss is the lite flywheel and the better curve
you will still get a better spark than a stock ignition
its the cdi that gives the spark strength not the coil
Bid Kahuna, OK, you listed two guys who you say weren't satisfied. I can list more who have been nothing but satisfied and they run the most high strung yami's out there. John has been great to me and my fellow racers, thats all I can attest to. I think there is some miscommunication between John and mcdog as to what testing meant. Lets focus on helping mcdog getting his boat running. MSD wiring can be tricky if all the grounds and associated electrical connections aren't done properly. Grounding is a huge issue with MSD, check and recheck. Are the dips fully engaged? Did you set the dips correctly?
Big Kahuna
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That was only 2 that I listed........
but your right, the task is to help the Dog............
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Thanks guys. My thread wasn't about bashing John, even though I wouldn't have used his services if I had known he didn't do any testing other than checking for a spark. He has been available with great advice and did do a great job of making it look nice. I can't say enough good things about godocgo who sold me the system. He said he would send me another coil or some $ to make up for it and that is about as cool as it gets around here. I always feel good buying from established guys on here and he has proven that to be the case. We gotta take care of each other like that. Mad props to Lee. I'm gonna wire up my stock coil tomorrow and cross my fingers that it works.
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Yes, I did. One of the switches did feel loose compared to the others, I hope that is not an issue.
I hope that's the cause because I swapped brains yesterday (yeah I've got two now) and it didn't really help any. I have another coil but I don't really know how to use it. It's one of those motorcycle coils and I think you have to buy studs for it...not sure. I have been running a slightly bigger gap (.036" instead of .031") so that might have something to do with it as well but it doesn't feel like the engine has ever misfired. Just feels like I'm running a 550 engine in my 750.
waxhead
wannabe backflipper
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- gold coast
Maybe you have a 550 total loss
yeah ok not a good joke but i tried
yeah ok not a good joke but i tried
Mark44
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Damn BK get out the pop corn you are just like every one else and I thought you were god like! j/K maybe.......:laugh2: LOL
Mark44
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Its all good even freestyle -race Demigods like BK like popcorn,care for a bag BK its good!