TNT pipes

[yankeeboy]

Based off your last post-will you post up the ideal motor and prop combo for the pipe when your finished testing? Assuming i bought a pipe, would i have to send my cylinder ( or other items) to you to be re-worked to run properly? As we all know the b pipe can be dropped on almost anything and run decent.

 

[McDog]

Wow....and all that from an i phone.

 

[dave916]

So when you see me post or at the beach try to remember I am doing this for my love of performance, to make things to be proud of.

Tim Enuff ^^ said! Cant wait to see the new pipe.

Sometimes its hard to reason with the unreasonable.

 

[Big Kahuna]

Based off your last post-will you post up the ideal motor and prop combo for the pipe when your finished testing? Assuming i bought a pipe, would i have to send my cylinder ( or other items) to you to be re-worked to run properly? As we all know the b pipe can be dropped on almost anything and run decent.

He already stated that in his last post. The TNT Chamber is not the same as a B Pipe Chamber, you cannot just stick it on and expect it to work, it is just a piece of a puzzle that only works when the adjoining parts are present.

 

[GIL]

He already stated that in his last post. The TNT Chamber is not the same as a B Pipe Chamber, you cannot just stick it on and expect it to work, it is just a piece of a puzzle that only works when the adjoining parts are present.

I know that 1st hand. I figured out how to make a Blaster mod work purely by accident. With NO water-that mofo really rips( for a few minutes). LOL

 

[Cannibal]

Flat transphers, square exhaust ports, good reed choice and matching head design for that, it will run.
But so many people run staggered porting, high transphers with oval exhaust ports, narrow squish, heavy reads and somehome make it run with a b pipe.
Well stay away from my pipe with that combo because it won't work!

I know the superstock pipe runs with big motors because I have done few,
85mm bore with 6mm strokers and was able to get wicked bottom end to point of unpropable back then.
I ended up raising the exhaust ports to soften them up because I had to retard the timing to much, and old ignitions didn't give you any advance options.

Just keep this in mind, pipes with high trapping pressures kill motors without square port timing. Center bleed, small stinger, large volumes of water in stinger, etc.
I can't build a pipe for ever crazy eng combo.

I will post all the engine specs of dyno dog that we test on.
Give you all every spec of eng, complete blueprint so to speak.
Will leave out nothing, so you all can see what the engine is and if you think your setup is similar and this be the pipe for you.

Wow! Great insight into engine differences and why what works.

I look forward to more notes on your porting and engine specs.

Thanks for taking the time to post here. We all know you have better things to do. Your pipes will sell with or with out this website.

 

[masterblaster]

I enjoyed that post as well.Im not questioning your ability at all,thats far outa my league. I just thought it would be nice to have a 15 sec vid of what ever run you are the most happy with,as in a second quick run on vid once youve established thats it.no matter.
So the 6mill stroker 85 mill bore was good with low end with the SS chamber?After riding scotties tim judge stroker with 81 bore I can easily see that.would the 6 mil motor have been any nastier out of the hole and lower mid with the lim or stroker pipe you made considering we dont care what its going to do up top? We are all deff interested to see what you come up with on a bb setup,true alot of us run that setup,but from the current crop of builders I sure have seen alot of at least semi ovaled exh ports.
http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/63652

 

[tntsuperjet]

I am kicking around the thought of building a 1200cc efi turbo setup just to see what it would do!

 

[Berky]

Whoa ! I would love to see that set up for low- mid , with quick throttle response (no lag) , with the correct size turbo and intake ,can it be light switch power?

 

[tntsuperjet]

I started a thread in general about the performance of each type of pipe. Will you be getting the dyno numbers for regular B pipes and having a comparison with the TNT pipe?

I'd bet we'd be able to get some chambers to lend for the testing if needed. I have a Kawi chamber and a SJ Mod chamber here that I could probably do without for the a couple months this winter.

I'd love to get a TNT chamber eventually, but I'd also like to know what chamber would come in second on a dyno shootout.

I know people here would love to see some dyno sheets on the different pipes on the same setups.

I will be using factory pipes dyno, we have access to every pipe factorypipe makes.
What we need is none factory pipe products.
R&d pipe, Baxter pipe, coffman, or any other pipe that is supposed to be good that is still available.

 

[tntsuperjet]

Whoa ! I would love to see that set up for low- mid , with quick throttle response (no lag) , with the correct size turbo and intake ,can it be light switch power?

With antilag, ecu tuning it can hit like nitrous.
But draw back is you can't continually run in antilag or turbos don't live to long.
Buy my thought is to use a heat exchanger to cool turbo so extended anti lag can be used.
Or just combine turbo with nitrous hooked up to pressure switch so nitrous turns off once on boost.
On my busa motors with anti lag off I can get 22-26psi boost in neutral.
Anti lag on get up to 35psi boost in neutral.
On sleds have big turbos responding with low lag at over 8,000ft elevation.
With nitrous they hit to hard in sled
without anti lag system there def raceable.

Question for all, why doesn't anyone use nitrous?
Please don't say it kills motors, that's tuners fault not nitrous.
I have run it on many couches and it rips!
It could be the backflip button?
My SN has enough room inside for 2 4lbs bottles.
That's a weekend worth of 3 second blasts.

 

[SuperJETT]

With antilag, ecu tuning it can hit like nitrous.
But draw back is you can't continually run in antilag or turbos don't live to long.
Buy my thought is to use a heat exchanger to cool turbo so extended anti lag can be used.
Or just combine turbo with nitrous hooked up to pressure switch so nitrous turns off once on boost.
On my busa motors with anti lag off I can get 22-26psi boost in neutral.
Anti lag on get up to 35psi boost in neutral.
On sleds have big turbos responding with low lag at over 8,000ft elevation.
With nitrous they hit to hard in sled
without anti lag system there def raceable.

Question for all, why doesn't anyone use nitrous?
Please don't say it kills motors, that's tuners fault not nitrous.
I have run it on many couches and it rips!
It could be the backflip button?
My SN has enough room inside for 2 4lbs bottles.
That's a weekend worth of 3 second blasts.

There have been people that have run it in standups with great results.

 

[WaveDemon]

there was a guy on here who had nitrous on his flatwater ski. his aerials were huge. I think I remember him hiding it in his gas tank.

 

[tntsuperjet]

Based off your last post-will you post up the ideal motor and prop combo for the pipe when your finished testing? Assuming i bought a pipe, would i have to send my cylinder ( or other items) to you to be re-worked to run properly? As we all know the b pipe can be dropped on almost anything and run decent.

I have to decline, I hate cylinder porting more then going to the dentist.
You would be way better off taking your cyclinder to a good engine builder who can do the porting for you.

I have only ported 20 motors in last 5yrs and it cost them 250hr for me to port.
So much better off finding someone else, there are plenty of tallented people out there who love to port and want your money!

 

[yankeeboy]

I have to decline, I hate cylinder porting more then going to the dentist.
You would be way better off taking your cyclinder to a good engine builder who can do the porting for you.

I have only ported 20 motors in last 5yrs and it cost them 250hr for me to port.
So much better off finding someone else, there are plenty of tallented people out there who love to port and want your money!

Flat transphers, square exhaust ports, good reed choice and matching head design for that, it will run.
But so many people run staggered porting, high transphers with oval exhaust ports, narrow squish, heavy reads and somehome make it run with a b pipe.
Well stay away from my pipe with that combo because it won't work!

my motor is already ported, but you were saying about different shaped ports and what-not. So i was questioning if your "ideal port work" for your pipe varies from most engine builders' freestyle port work. ie would x scream or jetworks etc. motors work (well) with your pipe, or would i have to get a specific type of porting.

 

[masterblaster]

my motor is already ported, but you were saying about different shaped ports and what-not. So i was questioning if your "ideal port work" for your pipe varies from most engine builders' freestyle port work. ie would x scream or jetworks etc. motors work (well) with your pipe, or would i have to get a specific type of porting.

basically what I referred to....

 

[CARBONX2]

There have been queries here about using tnt pipes on kawi's, well with what tim said they should perform better than on a yami as the kawi has flatter ports

 

[tntsuperjet]

Kawi has shorter exhaust manifold, the headpipe lenght may be to short for my pipe, but I have never tried, I think rob flores was building an adapter plate to try it.
But don't know the outcome.

As for jetwroks, arts pretty sharp guy and has bought few pipes over the yrs I'm sure he has a combo already.
You may want to ask him.
Have not talked to him in few yrs!

 

[MADMAT]

So B pipes are OK with 865's, right? But probably not the new X scream 1000cc, right? And the power factor pipe is $1300.00 and requires a smaller gas tank. So now we need a chamber for the B mani and head pipe that can rock a liter motor.....or down to 865cc

That is my next motor for sure.

 

[Berky]

I think Mat hit it on the head, that's what I'd like too, a chamber that could work from mid 800cc to 1000cc,no water in the exhauste port problem, maybe several slip in stinger sizes? That would be sweet.