Other Virus Nonsense

mikidymac

mikidymac

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California
All I can say is we are taking it seriously and being safe. My wife is working from home and I still go into the office but have the whole upstairs to myself and come and go from the emergency exit so we are fortunate and thankful to still be working full time. We limit our shopping and use a mask and sanitizer and let things sit in the car for a few days if we can. Yes it sucks and we have had to cancel trips and plans but we are spending less money and spending way more time together as a family so that is one positive thing from all of this. We still get outside and go for drives or a hike and as an added bonus I am making great progress on my Superjet that has sat for years and painting and redecorating my son's room. If that gets done and this is still going on I will start on my wife's 51' Ford Pickup project so it isn't all bad here.
 
Quinc

Quinc

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California
Some good news for California?

STANFORD, CA — The odds that you've already been exposed to the new coronavirus without knowing it are far greater than previously thought.
The study suggests the COVID-19 mortality rate to be far lower than previously thought. As of Tuesday April 14, the United States reported fatality rate of COVID-19 infected persons to be 4.1%, The Guardian reports.

The findings of the Stanford report suggest the actual death rate to be 0.12% to 0.2%.

https://patch.com/california/paloalto/stanford-study-coronavirus-exposure-far-exceeds-official-count
 
Harbor

Harbor

Location
Stockton
Yeah this Trump Republican administration iis doing it different.... unlike the others

I Just opened my SBA loan bill to make a payment. Oddly the day due is 01/05/2021, thought is was a misprint until I saw it said “your loan is in deferment, no payment is due until January” ok to still pay voluntarily.... interest still accures.. it’s simple interest 4%

Pretty nice I didn’t even have to ask...And iam sure will help those in need...

Bet Some would still cry their rights are being violated.....
 
Frosty

Frosty

New York Crew
Location
Western New York
Quinc said:
Some good news for California?

STANFORD, CA — The odds that you've already been exposed to the new coronavirus without knowing it are far greater than previously thought.
The study suggests the COVID-19 mortality rate to be far lower than previously thought. As of Tuesday April 14, the United States reported fatality rate of COVID-19 infected persons to be 4.1%, The Guardian reports.

The findings of the Stanford report suggest the actual death rate to be 0.12% to 0.2%.

https://patch.com/california/paloalto/stanford-study-coronavirus-exposure-far-exceeds-official-count
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I heard this as well. Very good news. I bet it falls even lower than that once they get the total scope of how many people have already been exposed/infected and never showed any symptoms or mild symptoms at best. I guess the sky really isn't falling like they'd have you believe. Maybe that's why they are now pivoting to a "second wave" or " wait until fall when this comes back with the flu" angle. Have to keep the fear going as long as possible... never lose an opportunity to take advantage.

update: NY's testing is showing the same results... widespread exposure/infection rates - much higher than what they thought.
 
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Quinc

Quinc

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California
mikidymac said:
Or maybe the stay at home/social distancing thing is actually working and dropping the numbers just like it is supposed to do?
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I think it prolongs the enevitable. But without overwhelming the medical infrastructure. I noticed this last week people are not doing near as much social distancing as before.
 
Frosty

Frosty

New York Crew
Location
Western New York
NYS's testing is now revealing that at least 20% of the population of NY has had it already... 20%... that's 4+million people just in NYS.

@mikidymac - Social distancing may very well be slowing the spread, but the point here is that more people have already had it and never knew. That means it's not as lethal as thought. That means the hospitalization rate is lower, the mortality rate is lower.
 
SteveC

SteveC

Location
West MI
mikidymac said:
Or maybe the stay at home/social distancing thing is actually working and dropping the numbers just like it is supposed to do?
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SXIPro said:
Trying to make a point using logic? Stop that right now!! This is the internet after all.
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If I'm understanding the study correctly, what it says is that FAR MORE people have been infected than anyone was previously thinking... meaning that all that social distancing folks thought was keeping them from getting infected did not have the slowing affect on the spread that they thought (or, "were told") it would. It's possible I'm missing some key component of the logical deduction from "more people are actually infected" to "must mean social distancing works", but it doesn't seem to me that that's a valid conclusion to draw from the facts (as given by that study).
 
AAlamo

AAlamo

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Dalhart, TX
mikidymac said:
Or maybe the stay at home/social distancing thing is actually working and dropping the numbers just like it is supposed to do?
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Maybe. Maybe not. One thing is for sure though, it has ruined the financial future for many many small businesses. And has put some, or will be putting some, out of business altogether. And while for some people with jobs that can work from home or they can afford to take a couple weeks vacation, it’s not too bad of a situation. For others though, they are having to work harder than ever to stay afloat.
It’s just a bad situation that does not appear to be getting much better.
 
mikidymac

mikidymac

Location
California
Frosty said:
NYS's testing is now revealing that at least 20% of the population of NY has had it already... 20%... that's 4+million people just in NYS.

@mikidymac - Social distancing may very well be slowing the spread, but the point here is that more people have already had it and never knew. That means it's not as lethal as thought. That means the hospitalization rate is lower, the mortality rate is lower.
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Be very careful with that data and making your own calculations.....
1. Only 3,000 people were tested.
2. The antibody test accuracy is questionable as noted by the experts.
3. 20% of those tested showed positive, not the entire state population.

As with all of this nobody is going to know the exact trends until testing becomes more accurate and widespread So as it has been said all along, testing is key and without enough everyone is just guessing as to what the best plan of attack is. Everyone is doing the best they can with the information at the moment and making decisions on that. Hopefully we will find out that it isn't as bad as predicted, most of us have been exposed to it and have a resistance and we can get back to life quickly and plan better in the future. But those that are crying that this was all a hoax to kill the economy and Trump would be complaining even louder if the death rate was as high or higher than predicted and we did nothing to stop it.
 
OCD Solutions

OCD Solutions

Original, Clean and Dependable Solutions
Location
Rentz, GA
More likely that it was far more widespread than thought, prior to us having any testing to know, or taking any actions.

I still say that the Type A flu that 3 of my co-workers had right after Christmas, was in fact the Corona. Same with the bug that went around Daytona.
 
mikidymac

mikidymac

Location
California
OCD Solutions said:
More likely that it was far more widespread than thought, prior to us having any testing to know, or taking any actions.

I still say that the Type A flu that 3 of my co-workers had right after Christmas, was in fact the Corona. Same with the bug that went around Daytona.
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That is very possible since we still don't know when China really knew about it and for how long especially when you think about how many international flights were coming and going from China.

Superbowl weekend I was down with the "Flu" for 4 days like nothing I can remember having before so you don't know. I would love to be able to do the antibody test.
 
Frosty

Frosty

New York Crew
Location
Western New York
mikidymac said:
Be very careful with that data and making your own calculations.....
1. Only 3,000 people were tested.
2. The antibody test accuracy is questionable as noted by the experts.
3. 20% of those tested showed positive, not the entire state population.
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mikidymac said:
As with all of this nobody is going to know the exact trends until testing becomes more accurate and widespread So as it has been said all along, testing is key and without enough everyone is just guessing as to what the best plan of attack is. Everyone is doing the best they can with the information at the moment and making decisions on that. Hopefully we will find out that it isn't as bad as predicted, most of us have been exposed to it and have a resistance and we can get back to life quickly and plan better in the future. But those that are crying that this was all a hoax to kill the economy and Trump would be complaining even louder if the death rate was as high or higher than predicted and we did nothing to stop it.
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I get what you are saying here. While it's interesting to try and link dots to some global conspiracy, I'm not saying that's the case.

But, the same predictions being used here to speculate how pervasive the virus is based on the 3,000 tests is likely similar to what was used to calculate how many were expected to be hospitalized or die when this whole thing started, right? Just saying that we put everyone into a major panic with the original math, then tell everyone to take the latest math with a grain of salt?
 
mikidymac

mikidymac

Location
California
Frosty said:


I get what you are saying here. While it's interesting to try and link dots to some global conspiracy, I'm not saying that's the case.

But, the same predictions being used here to speculate how pervasive the virus is based on the 3,000 tests is likely similar to what was used to calculate how many were expected to be hospitalized or die when this whole thing started, right? Just saying that we put everyone into a major panic with the original math, then tell everyone to take the latest math with a grain of salt?
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Yes I agree with you on that. I think in the end as is typical today the truth will be somewhere in the midd.

It’s funny, even my son keeps saying, “Seriously, just stop eating bats. “.
 
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