backie chan new new builder?

[Sparkplug]

I'd rather the hul weigh a bit more and not splinter or get stress cracks as easily. My cha has to weigh over 95lbs after I reinforced it, and it's still plenty capable. Im jumping 3x as high.

I'm not on the same page as most of the dudes who say they want super lightweight. I personally don't think that's the biggest factor for a am hull. The intake, pole placement, setback pump, length, and width all play a way more critical rolehan weight. So says me anyways. And the chan seems to have this part dialed. Steve just gotta a little excessive with trying to make them light, and you can kinda read why.

If weight is so important, why can I, and some others, barrel roll STOCK superjets, but others with carbon am hulls. Cannot.

 

[Yami-Rider]

Totally agree with sparkplug! Everyone around here calls them crackie-chan's. I know of one that had giant cracks in it after a 2 weeks of riding, when IMO one of the reasons for getting a a/m hull is to have a tougher ski. Its fiberglass and if its built right, its going to weigh close to 100# just like every other a/m hull.

 

[SmittySX]

I agree that i would like a little heavier hull that is strong than a lighter one that will crack...
Weight is one of the main factors in flat water hulls.

 

[WB1994]

Reinforcing this one for my son so Im sure I'll get as much ride time on one as I want. Would be more likely to buy from the new owners but these hulls look kind of blah to me , like a mid 90's Honda Civic. At the price the new owners are asking no doubt they will sell a boat load and I wish them luck. Not like they'll need it seeing the good ride reports on these hulls.

 

[bobob729]

Mine might be a crackie chan but its been fixed and holding up great with over 200 a tempts at a backflip from me. I rode around 3 times a week and havent had a problem other than losing a rideplate. But I have gotten 85 percent the way around without any more cracks. Am I worried not one bit. Love the hull have always thought about adding another to the addiction

 

[swapmeet]

I think weight is important for a FW hull. Because if you have less weight to push around it makes your Big Bore JM motor feel like a monster. Ask me how I know. (or Bobob, or Jmew) I pulled that motor out of my SJ, put it in the Chan (with a 144mag) and it was night and day.

That being said, on a Glass hull, I think the 100lb range is a good safe place to be. Lighter than a stock hull plus the difference in the shape etc as Sparkplug mentioned.

Also, give the new guys a break. Those might be the first ones they've popped out. Its a learning process and they are new to building hulls. They might be able to knock 10lbs off and keep a good strong hull. RRP glass hulls are in the 100lb range and they're strong and they don't break. It just takes a little more Oomph to make them do what a sub 80lb hull will do.
Mine is Carbon Kevlar, and I think it weighed 85 (or was it 75? can't remember) when I got it. But its strong, I've beat the piss out of it and only had cracks in the gel/ paint. Nothing structural.

I don't blame the the new builders one bit for building them heavy/ stronger. All it takes is one bad hull to get out and then everyone starts lighting torches and busting out the pitchforks. This place will turn on them in a heartbeat.

 

[Big Kahuna]

Sparkplug is correct. I believe there is more to the design than the lack of weight..... Look at the original XFS. It was heavy, but Chris Anzeski tossed in a 760 big bore and was absolutely killing it. So have others..... It is more a combo of rider skill and hull design......... Just because you got a big motor and a light hull is not going to teach you to properly flip........ I think that is also the frustration you see but do not hear about. IE, look at the turnover rate of hulls. Seams like many are just trying to find the hull that flips easier rather than work on their technique.

 

[vshockey10]

^^ The man has a point.


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[swapmeet]

Sparkplug is correct. I believe there is more to the design than the lack of weight..... Look at the original XFS. It was heavy, but Chris Anzeski tossed in a 760 big bore and was absolutely killing it. So have others..... It is more a combo of rider skill and hull design......... Just because you got a big motor and a light hull is not going to teach you to properly flip........ I think that is also the frustration you see but do not hear about. IE, look at the turnover rate of hulls. Seams like many are just trying to find the hull that flips easier rather than work on their technique.

Can't agree more. I have the hardware to flip, but as another member's wife apparently said, "You can't buy balls." And after countless failed attempts and some knee injuries as a result, i've taken a break from trying.

My point on weight is that you get more pop per CC of motor. My JM motor felt like a dog in my SJ, I was honestly upset about how little of a power difference there was (based on the $ I spent) But that same motor in my Chan felt incredible. Most people who've ridden my ski say it feels like a lot of engine, and its a 771. To me its just what i'm used to but i'm always surprised and pleased to hear the comments and complements.

 

[JMew03]

You should feel the power that the 735 delivers Mr. Swapmeet.

 

[makejetskiinggreatagain]

I don't blame the the new builders one bit for building them heavy/ stronger. All it takes is one bad hull to get out and then everyone starts lighting torches and busting out the pitchforks. This place will turn on them in a heartbeat.

swapmeet, where are the GIF's?

 

[swapmeet]

swapmeet, where are the GIF's?

I spent about 15min looking for a Simpsons or a Southpark gif because I swear they exist. The jpg's are out there, but I struck out on gifs so I said screw it. If I can't post a gif, I will post no pics at all.
But don't you worry sir... an effort was indeed made.

 

[iangdesign]

You should feel the power that the 735 delivers Mr. Swapmeet.

 

[iangdesign]

I spent about 15min looking for a Simpsons or a Southpark gif because I swear they exist. The jpg's are out there, but I struck out on gifs so I said screw it. If I can't post a gif, I will post no pics at all.
But don't you worry sir... an effort was indeed made.

 

[iangdesign]

Can't agree more. I have the hardware to flip, but as another member's wife apparently said, "You can't buy balls." And after countless failed attempts and some knee injuries as a result, i've taken a break from trying.

My point on weight is that you get more pop per CC of motor. My JM motor felt like a dog in my SJ, I was honestly upset about how little of a power difference there was (based on the $ I spent) But that same motor in my Chan felt incredible. Most people who've ridden my ski say it feels like a lot of engine, and its a 771. To me its just what i'm used to but i'm always surprised and pleased to hear the comments and complements.

I'm hoping for the same thing when I move to an AM hull next season. Everyone says my ported 701 is a beast...I agree the problem is my SN hull is just a pig by comparison. A new lighter-ISH hull should give me a little more freedom.

 

[woodsrider845]

...oh, you guys.....

 

[JMew03]

That cat GIF made me LOL.

 

[Quinc]

Reinforcing this one for my son so Im sure I'll get as much ride time on one as I want. Would be more likely to buy from the new owners but these hulls look kind of blah to me , like a mid 90's Honda Civic. At the price the new owners are asking no doubt they will sell a boat load and I wish them luck. Not like they'll need it seeing the good ride reports on these hulls.
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Look pretty nice to me:

 

[iangdesign]

Look pretty nice to me:

My buddy made the same comments as above...kinda funny I am a huge fan of mid 90s civics as well.

 

[Draggingto]

I love the paint on chan's, I actually wish mine was a bit crazier like the ones posted above. BUT i am also a fan of mid 90's-2000's Mini trucks and thats what the paint reminds me of.