Billet Kawi Porn

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waxhead

wannabe backflipper
Location
gold coast
Website looks great
Good to see dasa making a comeback in the watercraft industry
I know they have always been there but it seemed to fall away in the prioty list for a while
 
wsuwrhr

wsuwrhr

Purveyor of the Biggest Brapp
Location
Alta Loma, working in Upland
waxhead said:
Website looks great
Good to see dasa making a comeback in the watercraft industry
I know they have always been there but it seemed to fall away in the prioty list for a while
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Thanks!!

No chance bud.

Our watercraft WEB presence, until I started, has been non-existant.

Other than that, we have been the same since the beginning of watercraft racing.

More later

Brian
 
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Seb62T

Hello Brian,

I live in France and here we have very few of these engines. So, I would like to collect several informations, as kawi big engines market is growing !

Is the package you offer at 2800$ include the port job ? If no how much do we need to add to have an operational cylinder.
Is the port job done on 4/5 axis machines too ? Do you propose different port jobs depending on the client wishes (Low end, mid-top end) ?

Do you have a release date for the big bore long stroke cylinder (78X89mm is this spec is the right one) ?

Is the OEM Kawi crank (74mm) a good choice, or is that mandatory to go with Bulletproof crankworks custom crank ?

Sorry for all of these question, but I think I am not the only one who is searching for new engine solutions.


Regards,

Seb
 
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wsuwrhr

wsuwrhr

Purveyor of the Biggest Brapp
Location
Alta Loma, working in Upland
Seb,

Questions are always welcome, anytime, we want to make sure our custumers get what they wish and if we did our job, the engine performs above their expectations.

Porting is $300 additional.

We offer porting separate because some custumers like to do their own porting.

Otherwise, the cylinder is 100% operation as it is shipped.

There is no release date for the 90MM version of the Kawi at this time.

Yes, porting is always configured to the custumers intended usage of the engine package.

All watercraft exhaust ports are now finished in our in-house 5-axis CNC machine.

We use and recommend Crankworks billet cranks exclusively for any stroke unless the custumer desires something different. Yes the cost is more, and the wait is sometimes longer, but there are no problems or issues down the road with Phil's products.

If you would like, call the shop anytime and ask for Kyle or Kevin, they will gladly answer any questions you have about our engines.

Brian

Seb62T said:
Hello Brian,

I live in France and here we have very few of these engines. So, I would like to collect several informations, as kawi big engines market is growing !

Is the package you offer at 2800$ include the port job ? If no how much do we need to add to have an operational cylinder.
Is the port job done on 4/5 axis machines too ? Do you propose different port jobs depending on the client wishes (Low end, mid-top end) ?

Do you have a release date for the big bore long stroke cylinder (78X89mm is this spec is the right one) ?

Is +4mm OEM Kawi crank (78) a good choice, or is that mandatory to go with Bulletproof crankworks custom crank ?

Sorry for all of these question, but I think I am not the only one who is searching for new engine solutions.


Regards,

Seb
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Seb62T

Thanks for the answers.

What about the intake ports ? Are they finished with the 5 axis too (to get accurate angles and port area) ?

So the total for a ported cylinder is 3100$ ?

78X90 will give 992cc. Concerning what you said about over square engine, is that a good stroke/bore ratio ? Is the stroke not too short against the bore ?
I think it would be great for a GP engine, but for a FS engine maybe it could be better to go with the 78X84 cylinder even if the displacement is 128cc less... What is your feeling about that ?

And last question concerns the exhaust, what kind of exhaust would fit the best your engines. Wet and dry are still OK ?
We need to mod the head pipe of the wet like on the Yamis to fit the PVs ??

Thanks,

Seb
 
wsuwrhr

wsuwrhr

Purveyor of the Biggest Brapp
Location
Alta Loma, working in Upland
Our sleeves are custom made for us, the port angles are set to our specs.

The port area/port angles in the cylinder are set by the machining of the ports when the cylinder is machined on the 1st op. Very little manual machining is done on this cylinder, it is for the majority, all done on a CNC machine.

Porting is only changed slightly to accomodate different set-ups.

Yes, the total ported cylinder would be $3100. This is a complete top end. Gaskets, bored and honed cylinder, pistons, head, domes, orings, PV hardware.

The stock stroke(68MM)/90MM bore deal I have posted about, in our opinion, is just too over-square to work correctly, regardless of the hype. That market segment is fueled by marketing and the desire to brag about engine size and the resistance to the cost of a billet crank and nothing more.

The stroke needs to be relative to the bore size. Kawi cranks stock are already bigger than a Yamaha. The small bore cylinder for closed course will be a good package.

For freeride/freestyle the bigger bore may prove to be a higher horsepower package, but at this time, is un-tested to be released. The Kawi may just need a longer stroke/rod to provide enough dwell and crank timing to properly fill a 90MM cylinder to work correctly.

Due to the Kawi case design, any stroke larger than 4MM will only be possible with a billet case to accomodate a larger crank, with better ports and transfer area.

So far the only pipe we have used is a Factory SXR dry pipe. It will clear the PV's with no mods.

Brian


Seb62T said:
Thanks for the answers.

What about the intake ports ? Are they finished with the 5 axis too (to get accurate angles and port area) ?

So the total for a ported cylinder is 3100$ ?

78X90 will give 992cc. Concerning what you said about over square engine, is that a good stroke/bore ratio ? Is the stroke not too short against the bore ?
I think it would be great for a GP engine, but for a FS engine maybe it could be better to go with the 78X84 cylinder even if the displacement is 128cc less... What is your feeling about that ?

And last question concerns the exhaust, what kind of exhaust would fit the best your engines. Wet and dry are still OK ?
We need to mod the head pipe of the wet like on the Yamis to fit the PVs ??

Thanks,

Seb
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CARBONX2

CARBONX2

Location
South Africa
Please don't insult a kawi by saying the stroke is 68mm :smokin:

wsuwrhr said:
Our sleeves are custom made for us, the port angles are set to our specs.

The port area/port angles in the cylinder are set by the machining of the ports when the cylinder is machined on the 1st op. Very little manual machining is done on this cylinder, it is for the majority, all done on a CNC machine.

Porting is only changed slightly to accomodate different set-ups.

Yes, the total ported cylinder would be $3100. This is a complete top end. Gaskets, bored and honed cylinder, pistons, head, domes, orings, PV hardware.

The stock stroke(68MM)/90MM bore deal I have posted about, in our opinion, is just too over-square to work correctly, regardless of the hype. That market segment is fueled by marketing and the desire to brag about engine size and the resistance to the cost of a billet crank and nothing more.

The stroke needs to be relative to the bore size. Kawi cranks stock are already bigger than a Yamaha. The small bore cylinder for closed course will be a good package.

For freeride/freestyle the bigger bore may prove to be a higher horsepower package, but at this time, is un-tested to be released. The Kawi may just need a longer stroke/rod to provide enough dwell and crank timing to properly fill a 90MM cylinder to work correctly.

Due to the Kawi case design, any stroke larger than 4MM will only be possible with a billet case to accomodate a larger crank, with better ports and transfer area.

So far the only pipe we have used is a Factory SXR dry pipe. It will clear the PV's with no mods.

Brian
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wsuwrhr

wsuwrhr

Purveyor of the Biggest Brapp
Location
Alta Loma, working in Upland
haha.

That is the exact reason why I listed the size, that way noone would have any doubt as to what I was referring to. The point of that was becasue he was referring to posts I have made about the yamaha stock stroke 90MM deal.

Trust me my friend, this crank or that crank does not know that it is housed in a yamaha or kawi case. It just turns.

Brian

CARBONX2 said:
Please don't insult a kawi by saying the stroke is 68mm :smokin:
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