DISCONTINUING THE SUPERJET????

The housing is a bit below the hull, but has worked out well. The only problem is the sound signature from the russian jet pump is causing problems with my ride. The US Navy keeps surfacing in front of me, with guns out, until they see I'm just a wasted jet skier.....
 
Why does the pro watercross seem to think a 4-stroke superjet is coming this year? Have they actually confirmed this with yamaha?

They even have rules for it. page 46.

https://prowatercross.org/mt-content/uploads/2020/02/2020_pro_watercross_rule_book-rev_a.pdf

https://prowatercross.org/tour/
Wow, good find!

This section applies to the 4-stroke SuperJet scheduled for release in 2020. The watercraft will be allowed minimal modifications through the duration of the 2020 season to allow time to evaluate performance characteristics of the craft and allow development and manufacturing of parts so that there is equal access to any aftermarket part to all competitors. This watercraft will run in a separate class for the duration of 2020.
 

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27.TECHNICAL RULES –2020 YAMAHA SUPERJET27.1OVERVIEW27.1.1 Description:This section applies to the 4-stroke SuperJet scheduled for release in 2020. The watercraft will be allowed minimalmodifications through the duration of the 2020season to allow time to evaluate performance characteristics of the craft and allow development and manufacturing of parts so that there is equal access to any aftermarket part to all competitors. This watercraft will run in a separate class for the duration of 2020.27.1.2Modifications:These rules catalog the allowable modifications or alterations. If a definition, modification or alteration is not cited, then no modification, alteration or change can be made. 27.1.3General Rules:Watercraft are to remain stock as provided by the manufacture with the exceptions listed below. The following safetyand general rules insection 24of this rulebook apply to this class24.3 –Fuel24.4 –Tow Straps/ Loops / Hooks24.5 –Lanyard/ Tether engine stop switch24.6 –General maintenance and repair27.1.4Hull:padding and/or mat kits may be added and custom painting is allowed. The surface finish of any metal component outside the hull area above the bond flange may be painted, polished or plated.27.1.5Handlebar: Handlebar, grips, throttle, throttle cable may be modified or aftermarket. The handlebar cover may be modified or removed. The handlebar must be padded at the mounting bracket or, if it has a crossbar, the crossbar must be padded


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Wow, good find!

This section applies to the 4-stroke SuperJet scheduled for release in 2020. The watercraft will be allowed minimal modifications through the duration of the 2020 season to allow time to evaluate performance characteristics of the craft and allow development and manufacturing of parts so that there is equal access to any aftermarket part to all competitors. This watercraft will run in a separate class for the duration of 2020.

I would love to see a pic or more info on that!

4 stroke superjet!

Hope they keep al the dimension and it will be a bolt on in a blaster ; )
 

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I’ve talked to several people that claim the same thing and say “4 stroke” but know nothing more. Details? Price?
Nothing official released. I would be completely shocked if it did not have the TR-1 Motor. IF the size was not between the current SJ and the 1500 SXR. So, In the low 400 lb or upper 300's.
 
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Nothing official released. I would be completely shocked if it did not have the TR-1 Motor. IF the size was not between the current SJ and the 1500 SXR. So, In the low 400 lb or upper 300's.

I got out of skis last year, but still follow this forum slightly because I want to come back eventually. This would be so intriguing. Those guys in the proforces & kommander hulls ripping 4t's around the buoys, especially when turbo'd are so damn cool. I expect (hope) '21 Superjet to be similar to those skis.
 
The new Superjet is just what I've been waiting for!
I've always thought my superjet was too small / light and I've had too much time on my hands from it not breaking enough. I'm looking forward to oil changes, adjusting valve lash, 3x expensive rebuilds, expensive and complex direct injection that's almost impossible to diagnose or tune without Yami computer. Any more advantages?

At least Greta will be happy.

All joking aside, it will be really sad to see the last 2 stroke ski die off and new parts eventually become more expensive / discontinued.
 
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The new Superjet is just what I've been waiting for!
I've always thought my superjet was too small / light and I've had too much time on my hands from it not breaking enough. I'm looking forward to oil changes, adjusting valve lash, 3x expensive rebuilds, expensive and complex direct injection that's almost impossible to diagnose or tune without Yami computer. Any more advantages?

At least Greta will be happy.

All joking aside, it will be really sad to see the last 2 stroke ski die off and new parts eventually become more expensive / discontinued.

Eh, gotta try to stay positive. Inevitable 4t superjet, or stop making all-together one of these years. Superjet hasn't seen an update at all in 12 years & no update on powertrain in what, 24 years? That's an absolute f'ing joke that they still expect people to pay for that. I know its because they aren't allowed to (EPA) and/or money isn't there. Innovate or DIE! Looking forward to new model years coming with improvements.
 
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Quinc

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The new Superjet is just what I've been waiting for!
I've always thought my superjet was too small / light and I've had too much time on my hands from it not breaking enough. I'm looking forward to oil changes, adjusting valve lash, 3x expensive rebuilds, expensive and complex direct injection that's almost impossible to diagnose or tune without Yami computer. Any more advantages?

Here is the maintenance for the same engine in the sit down. Oil change at 100hrs and adjusting valves at 200hrs doesn't seem too bad. The time you save not having to mix gas should make up for the time it takes to do those things. Our biggest concern should be who is going to make a bpipe for it? :p
https://www.yamahawaverunners.com/globalassets/2019/maintenance-guides/2016-v1---v1-sport.pdf
 
Just because something is a newer design doesn't mean it's an improvement. There's tons of manufacturers who have been doing R&D on 2 strokes and still producing them. KTM, Rotax and outboards like Mercury. Unfortunately they're also going with direct injection and complex computers. They run clean and make good power, it just comes back to cost and complexity. If you're the kind of guy who buys something new and sells it in a few years, it doesn't matter to you. But generally it is planned obsolescence and the machine is quickly worth less than the cost of repair parts and labor. Look at the old DI sea doos and other skis, they're almost worthless to begin with, and as soon as any part of the computer system or DI fails, it's scrap. Cars have been going towards DI for the last 10- 15 years. Look at say a 2008 BMW that cost $90k when new. It's now worth almost 15k or less. At 80-120k miles, carbon builds up in the intake and valves and the head needs to be pulled for media blasting. That job is now half the value of the car and it's scrapped. How's that progress? Another probably 5-10k of the new cost added for the DI system when new, and now an otherwise good car is scrapped. All in the name of maybe 1/10th an mpg and keeping the tree huggers happy.

Don't get me started on all the other emissions garbage, especially the new diesels.

You guys know the fixed steer model is already out?
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