Extreme Back Pain....

[Moondance]

Nick,
As you progress along with your chiro, see if he will get you a tens (Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulator) unit. It is the home version of what he uses in the office. I have one & it has been my saving grace. The unit is small enough to clip on your belt or stick in your pocket. I use mine quite often between my regular visits if I'm having flair-ups. In fact, it goes with me to all of the freerides. If you don't have one by then, I'll show it to you in Jan.

 

[yamaslut]

Nick,
As you progress along with your chiro, see if he will get you a tens (Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulator) unit. It is the home version of what he uses in the office. I have one & it has been my saving grace. The unit is small enough to clip on your belt or stick in your pocket. I use mine quite often between my regular visits if I'm having flair-ups. In fact, it goes with me to all of the freerides. If you don't have one by then, I'll show it to you in Jan.

thanks I'll ask him...

 

[Sospikey]

A question Slutty? What about using massage? I go to this guy when my muscles are fked up. He "tests" my muscles by sensing tension while doing stretch exercises. About 6 weeks ago my left back region was a mess. By doing these tests he could isolate the problem to stiff muscles in my right hip area. He massaged the sore muscles so they could relax. He also showed how to "self-fix" this by doing some stretch exercises. This could be an alternative treatment if your muscles are shot but the bones are where they should be. Also use the TENS, actually works! You can even use the TENS to build muscle (no joke) with the right settings!
Just my 2 cents....

 

[OCD Solutions]

Glad to hear the Chiro is working for you, I believe in it 100% and it sounds like you found a good one. While cracking bones is necessary, sometimes it's not always the best treatment. If you liked the electro therapy you should ask around for anyone using Low Intensity Laser Therapy. It's the latest thing in Sports Therapy. Chiro will help you with alignment and subluxation issue's promoting faster healing but the Laser Therapy will help heal the soft tissues in a fraction of the time.

http://practitioners.meditech-bioflex.com/laser-therapy/what-is-laser-therapy-lilt-lllt.php

A Chiropractor friend has been using laser therapy in his office for a couple years now and he swears by it. It picks up where the Chiropractic falls off. His clinical results are incredible, and combining the two practices has had phenominal results for his clients. My Fiance and I are looking at buying 4 units for our own clinic.

We were sold on it after my Fiance was treated. She broke her tailbone 3 years ago and has suffered since with radiating pain down her right leg. She's tried Chiropractic, Massage, Electrotherapy, acupuncture and active pressure release methods with little or no results. As a Chiropractor herself, she believes in the wholistic approach and would never reccommend surgery as an approach to pain relief. Our Chiro friend finally convinced us to fly down to his clinic and get treatment with the laser. She underwent 10 treatments in 5 days and hasn't had any recurring pain since. Low Level Laser Therapy is proving to be one of the best new alternatives to surgery.

Drugs and surgery are never the right answer. Eat Well, Move Well, Think Well! (Dr. James Chestnut. DC, 2005)

And remember to load up on your Omega 3's, it promotes faster healing and helps keep the inflamation down.

Good Luck in you recovery.

 

[yamaslut]

welll... had a bad relapse saturday that has put me back into extreme pain mode... was riding my bike and jumped off and POP... I tore another muscle and now I have two places on my back that are killing me, along w/ my waist... the worst pain of all is comming from the left side of my waist...

The doc says I have a degenerated disc (L5), but I have not heard him say that was the problem... Went for electro therapy again this morning and am going tonight again... I'm screwed...

After pulling/tearing my muscle again , I'm so scared to do anything now. I'm so paraniod... I'm thinking 6-8 weeks before I ride again... That should put me right at the Freeride...

:ugh:

 

[Tuttle]

That sucks Nick, Back pain isn't something to play with either. Whatever happens don't go under the knife. If I can help with anything, let me know.
From the way it looks, I won't be riding until the Freeride also. (I hope) Take care of yourself!

 

[Odd Duck]

Wow, sorry to hear that, Nick. Are you sure you're actually tearing the muscle as opposed to popping a vertebra out of place a little and getting secondary muscle spasms? It's pretty rare to actually tear the muscles (for dogs, anyway).

If you were a dog, I would have the owner go back to icing mode again for 2-3 days, then alternating heat and ice. Don't go extreme with either, ice only until the spasms stop, then go ice for 10 min, off for 20 or 30, heat for 10, off for 30, etc.

Those soft, cold packs are the best, they don't last long enough to get too cold. If you have 2, then the first one is refrozen by the time the second one is getting warm, etc. After you go to the trading off heat and ice it doesn't matter so much.

Get (your dog) back on the Flexoral, too. Those muscles spasms can be as painful or worse than the slipping disc and pinched nerve. The spasms often trigger more pinching and certainly lead to more pain and inflammation thanks to a runaway inflammatory cascade. Are you (ahem, is your dog) still on the pred? If not, talk to your doc again.

 

[Big Kahuna]

welll... had a bad relapse saturday that has put me back into extreme pain mode... was riding my bike and jumped off and POP... I tore another muscle and now I have two places on my back that are killing me, along w/ my waist... the worst pain of all is comming from the left side of my waist...

The doc says I have a degenerated disc (L5), but I have not heard him say that was the problem... Went for electro therapy again this morning and am going tonight again... I'm screwed...

After pulling/tearing my muscle again , I'm so scared to do anything now. I'm so paraniod... I'm thinking 6-8 weeks before I ride again... That should put me right at the Freeride...

:ugh:

Nick, am I gonna have to come down there and give you a kick in the ass? it not been a week and already you riding the bike.......... take it easy man.......I know it hard for you to but do it................
:banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[sxi steve]

Nick, go back and re-read post #76.... :smashfreakB:

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[Hirschfelt]

Yamaslut, sorry to hear about your mis-furtune. I am a Chiropractor and there is great advice on this forum. Ice with any flare ups for 72 hours then do contrast therapy (Moist heat 15-20 min then ice 20 min) Do not ice longer than 24 min because the body will react like its in a state of hypothermia and you will get the same therapuetic results as heat. You always want to end the contrast therapy with ice. Ice will slow nerve conduction = less pain and decrease vasculature = decrease swelling. The Cold laser therapy is great for speedy recoveries. You should be able to find someone in your area that has it for cheap. My buddy charges $10 a session at his practice. The business man will charge you up to $60 a session. WATCHOUT!

Chiropractic restores proper nerve/joint function. Your nerve system controls all of your muscles. Yes Chiropractors adjust bones, but our intent is to reduce nerve irritation. When a vertebra is out of alignment that motion segment loses range of motion, this alters the biomechanics of that joint and those above. The body needs to be mobile. Especially when jetskiing. Your discs and muscles are what is going to be under repititive stress. These stresses all add up to what you are now going through. I doubt that you actually tore your muscle. You may have strained it.

There are good supplements to take that will actually speed up your recovery. At my office I sell Optimal Health Systems. I would recommend you talk to your DC about them. Get the Acute formula and then after that get the chronic. NSAIDs do reduce swelling compared to doing absolutely nothing but they reduce the healing time as well. The Acute formula will reduce swelling at par with NSAIDs but will have faster healing times.

PM me if you want any professional advice.

Healing takes time.

 

[masterblaster]

lotta good advise here,been dealing with L5 disc problems and back and hip pain for yrs.One of the best things ive found to help cope when your muscles are going into spasm or tightening up is this unit here,works AWSOME

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and if $ isnt a option,as it shouldnt be compared to this kind a pain!!!

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[Proformance1]

This thread has helped me alot. Hope you are feeling better soon Slutty! Went to the doctor and got flexeril, slept alot. Yesterday I went to a PT/Chiro and my spine is all twisted up. Changing monitor position at work and home, and doing some stretching. He is trying to get me back in shape for Daytona. Hopefull it will work.

 

[surfjunkie]

excellent info hirschfelt. thanks!

Ice will decrease vasculature = decrease swelling.

but something i've always wondered, if inflamation is the body's way of promoting healing, (more blood to the injured area) why are we always trying to do and take things to decrease swelling (inflamation). just seems like we are interrupting natures way of fixing stuff.

 

[WaveDemon]

damn bro, sorry to hear this is still bothering you. get healed up for the freeride!

 

[stuntbikemike]

Streching is the most important part of physical activity....if your tight youll strain muscles and be more prone to getting injured....Nick ,,,just strech real good before your go ride anything...

 

[mybad]

I know that Tractor Supply Center(TSC) sells the horse version of muscle ointment. I was in line behind an 80 year old guy who was buying it last month. I asked the guy what kind of horse he had, and he said an 80 year old one. LOL He swore by the stuff. I believe that is what your were referring to earlier in this thread. If you dont have a store close by you can get in online at Tractorsupply.com.

 

[Moondance]

I know that Tractor Supply Center(TSC) sells the horse version of muscle ointment. I was in line behind an 80 year old guy who was buying it last month. I asked the guy what kind of horse he had, and he said an 80 year old one. LOL He swore by the stuff. I believe that is what your were referring to earlier in this thread. If you dont have a store close by you can get in online at Tractorsupply.com.

I keep it on hand at all times...great stuff.

 

[djkorn1]

It smells like ass, but works great.

 

[Moondance]

It smells like ass, but works great.

Well I don't make it a habit of smelling ass, but the one I have smells minty fresh:bigok:

 

[vitaly]

Streching is the most important part of physical activity....

I know that Tractor Supply Center(TSC) sells the horse version of muscle ointment...

I keep it on hand at all times...great stuff.

Well I don't make it a habit of smelling ass, but the one I have smells minty fresh:bigok:

You lost me again... On hand?...
What did you stretch?

:bad: