Extreme Back Pain....

Hirschfelt

Hirschfelt

Location
Buffalo, NY
surfjunkie said:
excellent info hirschfelt. thanks!





but something i've always wondered, if inflamation is the body's way of promoting healing, (more blood to the injured area) why are we always trying to do and take things to decrease swelling (inflamation). just seems like we are interrupting natures way of fixing stuff.
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We always want what we can't have. Until we don't have what we once had.

Inflammation/swelling will reduce joint mobility. Motion is what keeps are body’s working. Example a joint out of alignment left uncorrected leads to arthritis. Your venous system uses muscle contraction to return the blood back to the heart. The disc s in your back need motion to supply them with proper nutrients. Without proper alignment, proper motion does not occur, and your disc thins/degenerates under gravity.


With an injury our number one aspect is to regain motion as soon as possible. If a joint is swollen it will not have the proper ROM. Fibrotic/scar tissue will soon set in. This tissue is like the "grizzle" in meat. The elasticity of scar tissue is next to nothing. This will also limit your ROM. Simply, no motion in a swollen joint will have more scar tissue than a joint with motion. Scar tissue is very hard to reduce once present. Preventing scar tissue is key.

We use ice for acute injuries to reduce swelling and pain. This is done so the patient can move/pump the joint. The therapeutic benefit of icing is to aid motion by constricting the vasculature reducing inflammation. Motion is what brings vibrant new blood to the injury and pumps out old blood. Again the venous system requires motion for circulation.

NSAIDs will reduce your inflammation but they slow your ability to heal. (Prolong injury)
I recommend Optimal Health System's Acute formula as an alternative.

I= Ice
C= compression
E=elevation

As for after 72 hours the contrast therapy will facilitate the healing process. To get you back to where you once were. If you do not change your lifestyle at this point you will end up back in the same place again.

We as a society need to start promoting health within ourselves and not look to get healthier once we have reached the bottom. Health is a proactive measure that requires dedication.

As an article in Preventative Medicine noted, modern medicine "... knows virtually nothing of those positive factors responsible for wellness in individuals and societies. There is a need, for attention to early departures from health, not yet expressed as illness, much less as a classifiable disease." The error is, and has long been, in the inappropriate reliance upon late-stage heroic efforts to "save" the already diseased patient.

I feel for every patient of mine. I try to educate everyone on how powerful Chiropractic is. Proper maintenance can reduce your suffering greatly.

Chiropractic, exercise, proper nutrition and supplementation FIRST.
Drugs Second. Surgery Last.

I hope that answers it for ya.
 
Odd Duck

Odd Duck

Jet Vet
Location
DFW, TX
surfjunkie said:
excellent info hirschfelt. thanks!





but something i've always wondered, if inflamation is the body's way of promoting healing, (more blood to the injured area) why are we always trying to do and take things to decrease swelling (inflamation). just seems like we are interrupting natures way of fixing stuff.
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The body often gets carried away and produces excessive amounts of inflammation. and swelling that leads to ever more pain, more inflammation, etc in a viscious cycle. All we want to do is control excess inflammation that is detrimental to healing. We can never take away all the inflammation and we wouldn't want to. In the short term, excess inflammation leads to more problems than the original injury. In the long term, low-grade inflammation is your friend, bringing in blood to the area and stimulating healing.

Minimizing scar tissue IS vitaly important, not just in the spine, but in any joint, muscle, nerve, skin, etc. The inflammation that occurs from the original insult, then in the first few days in particular, will largely determine how much scarring occurs. So, controlling inflammation for the first few days is really critical - hence the ice. Then as that first burst of inflammation starts to clear, we want to stimulate more circulation. This will help move out toxins and help the immune system to start clearing out damaged cells and let the body start to rebuild at the microscopic level.

I could go into what happens at the chemical level, but then I'd have to break out the books to be accurate and for sure that would bore 99.9% of everyone half to death.

It boils down to limiting EXCESS inflammation, then letting the system work for you in a controlled manner.
 
surfjunkie

surfjunkie

Location
deland fl
Hirschfelt said:
We as a society need to start promoting health within ourselves and not look to get healthier once we have reached the bottom. Health is a proactive measure that requires dedication.
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i agree with that.


thanks for the explaination on reducing swelling. no one has ever layed it out like that. makes sense.

great advice and info. thanks
 
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yamaslut

Guest
wow.... great advice...

Thanks Hirschfelt, I will be contacting you through PM's
 
Speleopower

Speleopower

got a Superjet
Location
Cocoa Beach
I just opened this thread. Wow, so sorry to hear of your back problems. Take it easy for sure. When I had heart surgery it was super hard not to get back to skateboarding, kitesurfing etc. I think I rode my skateboard 3 weeks after the surgery which was stupid stupid stupid!!

A friend tore his quadriceps muscle one time while we were weight lifting. It was very very minor but it put him down for several weeks. He just dropped to the ground, it was scary.

Be safe and take it easy.
Scott
 
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yamaslut

Guest
Odd Duck said:
Hey, Nick, how's your back doing lately? Weren't you going for a new MRI?
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yeah... it came back pretty bad... I am being refered to a Neuro Surgeon...

this is the report:

L 1-2 migrating extruded disc fragment producing impingement and posterior displacement of the left L-1 nerve root as it travereses the left lateral recess superiorily and enters the left nueral formen

L 2-3 tiny posterior central superiorily migrating extruded disc fragment superimposed upon a mild posterior disc bulge. Mild stenosis of the canal and lateral recess

L 3-4 subtle left lateral disc bulge

L 4-5 Mild left postlateral and forminal disc bulge protruding mild stenosis with out definaten nerve root impingment

L 5-S-1 Degerative disc desease w/ small posterior central and left paracentral disc heriation
 
Big Kahuna

Big Kahuna

Administrator
Location
Tuscaloosa, AL
you remember that one time you decided not to Bail, maybe you should have!!!!!!

Damn man, but that is what you were telling me on the phone the other day....... when is your appointment?
 
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yamaslut

Guest
I really don't know when they will get me in... the family doc refered me and she said it could be more than a month...

So I wait.............. I'm assuming this is a bad time of the year to get in, since people will be on vacation and so on...
 
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yamaslut

Guest
yeah... I will be getting a few opinions... I'm sure they will want to cut into me... that may be the only way I can get better
 
Odd Duck

Odd Duck

Jet Vet
Location
DFW, TX
Dang, sorry Nick. There is a lot you can do with PT. My hubby had a disk slipping and was able to recover fully with just PT, but that 's not going to work for everyone. His pain wasn't as persistent as yours has been. If you can manage it, pain wise, you should ask if there are any exercises you can do in the mean time to try and help those discs go back into place.

And I second the sport injury specialist, for sure. Good luck, man! Get well!
 
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