Hand guns

[Hihi962]

Thinking of picking up a Ruger LCR if its legal here, anyone have experience shooting these things? I wanna get one in .22 mag, for some bear protection when bow hunting, i know a .22 WMR will not kill a bear in one shot... Or mabe 5. But it is small and light weight so it'd be easy to carry. I couldnt imagine holding a 357 mag and actually comfortably shooting it in a LCR gun.
was also thinking about a ruger single six .22 convertible just for plinking around.
as i am left handed, i only like revolvers, and also like the safety of no easy misfires.
or any other advice?

 

[Quinc]

Thinking of picking up a Ruger LCR if its legal here, anyone have experience shooting these things? I wanna get one in .22 mag, for some bear protection when bow hunting, i know a .22 WMR will not kill a bear in one shot... Or mabe 5. But it is small and light weight so it'd be easy to carry. I couldnt imagine holding a 357 mag and actually comfortably shooting it in a LCR gun.
was also thinking about a ruger single six .22 convertible just for plinking around.
as i am left handed, i only like revolvers, and also like the safety of no easy misfires.
or any other advice?

Is it only handguns you can't have .32 cal or bigger? You should look into the Rossi Ranch Hand. 12" lever action in .44mag .357 or .45LC.
http://www.rossiusa.com/product-details.cfm?id=194&toggle=

 

[RivMan]

Thinking of picking up a Ruger LCR if its legal here, anyone have experience shooting these things? I wanna get one in .22 mag, for some bear protection when bow hunting, i know a .22 WMR will not kill a bear in one shot... Or mabe 5. But it is small and light weight so it'd be easy to carry. I couldnt imagine holding a 357 mag and actually comfortably shooting it in a LCR gun.
was also thinking about a ruger single six .22 convertible just for plinking around.
as i am left handed, i only like revolvers, and also like the safety of no easy misfires.
or any other advice?

I have owned an LCR .38 Spcl, and an LCR .357 Mag.

I wouldn't buy a .22, not worth it at all. The LCR .357 is rated to shoot .38Spcl, and the heavier weight vs the .38 version helps the recoil a bit. If I was to buy another, I'd only get a .357 (Even if I never shot it with .357 ammo.)

-Rob

 

[Hihi962]

I have owned an LCR .38 Spcl, and an LCR .357 Mag.

I wouldn't buy a .22, not worth it at all. The LCR .357 is rated to shoot .38Spcl, and the heavier weight vs the .38 version helps the recoil a bit. If I was to buy another, I'd only get a .357 (Even if I never shot it with .357 ammo.)

-Rob

Thanks, good to know, i will prob. look at the single six in 22 just as plinking. You say owned, does that mean the LCR's aren't to handy? Better off with a full size?

And as far as .32 caliber, no, its just a ban for that size and only for hand guns... Strange hey?
I looked at them leaver action guns that shoot hand gun ammo, not really worth it, i might as well get winchester 30-30 if i go that route. I have had leaver actions, not a big fan.

 

[mxmark4]

Thanks, good to know, i will prob. look at the single six in 22 just as plinking. You say owned, does that mean the LCR's aren't to handy? Better off with a full size?

And as far as .32 caliber, no, its just a ban for that size and only for hand guns... Strange hey?
I looked at them leaver action guns that shoot hand gun ammo, not really worth it, i might as well get winchester 30-30 if i go that route. I have had leaver actions, not a big fan.

mt dad bought my sister a lcr in .22wmr for a carry gun since she had trouble shooting her lcp 380. American rifleman had a good write up on the lcr in 22 mag versus 9mm and 45 acp. will penetrate just as far in ballistic gelatin testing but of course it left a much smaller hole. and you cant take advantage of super high velocity with 2 inches of barrel. but it will still hurt like hell to get shot by it

 

[Quinc]

Thanks, good to know, i will prob. look at the single six in 22 just as plinking. You say owned, does that mean the LCR's aren't to handy? Better off with a full size?

And as far as .32 caliber, no, its just a ban for that size and only for hand guns... Strange hey?
I looked at them leaver action guns that shoot hand gun ammo, not really worth it, i might as well get winchester 30-30 if i go that route. I have had leaver actions, not a big fan.

I have a lever action in 30-30 and .357. The .357 is one of my favorite rifles. Can plink all day with it and it's cheap!

If .32 is your only restriction why not get a gun that can take down a bear? .44mag, .45LC, they even make a revolver that shoots .45acp.

 

[Hihi962]

A .44 mag is to big of gun for me, i like smaller calibers, imo, i think a .44 is too big for most guys, i flinch too much or brace for recoil, and my accuracy goes out the window.
for example all i can handle in a rifle is a 7mm mag at the most. I have buddies with big cannons like 300WSM, they never hit game because their eyes are closed nearly every time and jerk the trigger, so they know when the kick comes as opposed to a nice smooth squeez.... So my train of thought has always been - what good is a gun if you cant hit anything with it, so i really wanted that .327 mag. But not allowed in canada.
so is there anything else that is ballistically similar with a nice moderate recoil like it has? I have never shot .357mag, but i did shoot .44mag, and know its way too much for me.

 

[OCD Solutions]

Owning any handgun in Canada means you are allowed to take it from your house to a range. Even if you take the course and get your basic PAL (Possession and Acquisition License) and then get the restricted/prohibited endorsements. It still doesn't give you any permission to carry it on your person or in your vehicle; unless on private land. (thankfully there is an absolute load of private land).

It is and always has been the stance of the Canadian government that there is absolutely no justifiable need for any civilian to carry or keep any weapon for the purpose of personal protection. Therefore, the only lawful reason to own a handgun or restricted weapon, is for competition purposes. Part of legally owning a handgun is maintaining an annual membership to a shooting or firing range. Any other use is considered a violation.

Protecting the masses is the governments job and they don't want anyone else stepping on their toes...not even the Bears.
http://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms-control/canada.php

I generally agree with the rules since we are allowed to pretty much carry any hunting rifle imaginable, in any caliber with little to no regulation whatsoever. I grew up in a house with no less that 20 rifles and shotguns of every caliber from 22LR to 338 Win Mag. I received a gun for every birthday from the age of 7 to 17 and bought a few on the side as well. To say Canadians couldn't defend themselves is an absolute understatement. I started hunting and shooting at a very young age and am a very proficient killer.

Having bow hunted for several years in Black bear, Wolf, Cougar and Grizzly country I know first hand how much more comfortable it would be to have been allowed to carry a handgun on my side, especially since a lot of our trips were back pack trips up into the Tundra after mountain goat and sheep. That was major Grizzly country and usually at least a 2-3 day hike from our boat or truck, much less civilization or a medical facility. With our packs around +70lbs, there's not much room left for another 7-9lbs for a rifle. As it was, I had a shortened 30-30 savage saddle gun that was about as compact as they come and it was manageable for the short day trips but I never felt comfortable in bear country packing anything less than my 338 anyways.

Now, even though I wasn't comfortable and wasn't packing a gun as backup, I still managed to shoot 3 deer, 1 moose, 1 mountain goat, 2 black bears and a Grizzly with my bow and all before I turned 16. I took the goat with a 62# recurve from 35 yards and the Grizzly with my 80# Browning Mirage from only 9 yards. Now that was a trip!

 

[OCD Solutions]

your post has an american flag, yet you post a picture of a turkish gun lol...

But isn't that the American way? :naughty:

 

[Quinc]

A .44 mag is to big of gun for me, i like smaller calibers, imo, i think a .44 is too big for most guys, i flinch too much or brace for recoil, and my accuracy goes out the window.
for example all i can handle in a rifle is a 7mm mag at the most. I have buddies with big cannons like 300WSM, they never hit game because their eyes are closed nearly every time and jerk the trigger, so they know when the kick comes as opposed to a nice smooth squeez.... So my train of thought has always been - what good is a gun if you cant hit anything with it, so i really wanted that .327 mag. But not allowed in canada.
so is there anything else that is ballistically similar with a nice moderate recoil like it has? I have never shot .357mag, but i did shoot .44mag, and know its way too much for me.

Do you guys not drink milk or something in Canada? My tiny wife can shoot bigger guns than that without issue... Before you get your next gun do this:

Eat some man food.

Get some heavy grips so you can handle something bigger than a .22

Smoke some of that famous Canadian weed.

Repeat. :biggthumpup:

 

[Hihi962]

I completely agree with ya OCD, also i looked it up, the LCR is not allowed here. I am much like yourself, grew up on a farm and have killed much game in my life thus far. I just recently got concerned about bear protection as one of our buddies had a run in and had to kill a grizz to save his own skin (he was being stalked). Funny thing is, he reported the whole thing himself and the idiots charged him for it, he wished he just said nothing, no one would have known any different. dont wanna give up my life long passion of hunting, so i might just carry sumthin in my pack to give me a chance, eventhough some housewife in quebec city may not agree.

its not a hand gun, but i did just buy a Cooper M56 custom in 270 WBY.. Set me back $4200 today.
unreal american craftsmanship with a german engineered action... Perfect marriage!

 

[OCD Solutions]

Picking up my C92 in the morning and have enough cash to pick up another gun but can't decide what else to get.

Currently it's a decision between a Mossberg 500, Buckmark 22LR, AEE Witness 10mm or a Ruger ITAC 10/22.

 

[wanderer1]

Picking up my C92 in the morning and have enough cash to pick up another gun but can't decide what else to get.

Currently it's a decision between a Mossberg 500, Buckmark 22LR, AEE Witness 10mm or a Ruger ITAC 10/22.

Depends on what/why you purchase the tools you choose. Are you gathering random firearms and calibers just to do it or is there a usage plan for the tools you purchase?

 

[OCD Solutions]

I'm more of a usage kind of guy. I have just enough money for nice things but not enough for nice things that just sit around and do nothing.

Here's my current scenario. We have an indoor range within 5 minutes of the house that only allows handguns and 22LR rifles. There are 2 places to shoot outdoors within an hour of the house but we haven't made the effort to check it out yet; it might be more fun but may also be just as restrictive and still not as fun as free shooting out in a random gravel pit. Having grown up out in the country where we used to run wild and shoot anything that moved, any organized or regulated shooting facility just feels cramped. My wife is not that comfortable with guns in general since she has never been around them so I am treading lightly and slowly warming her up to the idea. She thinks we are just fine with the first two we bought and is happy to fire off 50 rounds once a month. I go during the week and prefer to shoot 200+ thru multiple guns.

So, I already have basic home defense and CCW covered with 2 primary handguns plus a couple hidden guns so now I'm mostly looking for target and range guns.
Current guns;
Ruger SR9c
Ruger SR22
FEG P63 in 9x18 Makarov
ATI C92 in 9mm

I think I have it narrowed down to the Ruger ITAC 10/22. Turns out the Mossberg 500 is only a .410, The 10mm is more expensive to shoot than a .45 and I would much rather fill that void in my collection with a true Colt 1911 .45 someday. The Buckmark may be a great shooter but is one of the ugliest guns I have ever seen.

My buddy has 2 of the ITAC's he's willing to lend me so I'm going to try to take my wife to the range this weekend and do some plinking. I bet she falls in love with it and it and it gives us one more thing to do outdoors together.

Really liked his Dragunov 7.62, Arrow Arms AR15 in .223 and FN PS90 but they are way out of my price range. There's also a Savage 17 HMR with 2K rounds of ammo that I would have stretched the budget for but he isn't willing to part with it.

 

[wanderer1]

My question was meant for you to evaluate your purchases. 25 years ago I had multiple calibers and firearms because I bought what I thought was kool and wanted a bunch of different firearms. Since then I have reviewed this and now have settled on just a few calibers and firearms that i can concetrate on being effective with,gathering mags and accesories,and ammo for. Having a bunch of different tools is fun and neat and nothing wrong with it. I feel if effectiveness is priority then focus is on primary firearms and calibers. That being said I have doubles of what I like and thats all I have. As far as the "true" Colt .45 there are far superior examples available.The pair I have that are made in Texas are perfect examples. There has been a resurgence in the 10mm and fwiw a big fan is Ted Nugent. I like calibers that arent obscure. Target shooting is handled with my go to tools and I always use the same ammo so things are the same when it "counts". Have fun man and enjoy

 

[OCD Solutions]

The real story of me wanting more guns right now is mostly due to a buddy at work with a $30K gun collection and a soon to be ex-wife insisting that he liquidate. If he wasn't in my ear everyday, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

I'm leaning towards 2 calibers at this point for the same reasons you mentioned above. I do have a plan and am basically picking thru his collection for guns that fit my plan and that's what I'm listing here. I have only mentioned a handful of what he has available as only a select few are practical to me.

I plan to stick to 9mm and 22LR with maybe an oddball in there for kicks like an occasional shooter in .45. The 9x18 is an exception because I couldn't say no to the price tag. It's always loaded, hidden but within reach and 2 boxes of ammo will likely last me a lifetime. Every gun owner needs at least one throw away.

My SR9c is a decent gun that shoots well but after shooting some higher quality handguns, it's left me wanting. I was after a Sig P226 but this new ATI 9mm is going to fill the void just fine for 1/3 the cost and the SR9 will get bumped to Sentry duty.

Stock photo pulled off the interweb of the Ruger ITEC TALO 10/22 I'm looking at. I was wanting to put together a bug-out kit and include a lightweight and accurate firearm that I could carry a lot of ammo for and this fits the bill quite nicely. I would almost prefer a takedown version over the collapse able and foldable stock but the price and availability of this one is hard to argue with.

 

[Quinc]

That 10/22 just looks bad. If you want a gun that looks like an AR-15 get an AR-15. If you are thinking about the buckmark for your wife, chances are she will not be able to pull the slide back. What about instead of a gun you get reloading supplies?

 

[OCD Solutions]

Yeah, I passed on the 10/22 and just picked up the C92 this afternoon. Still can't believe the quality of the C92 for the price. $100 cheaper than my Ruger SR9 and way better quality.

I picked up another 600 rounds of 9mm and 1000 rounds of 22LR this morning so I am all set for a range day.

 

[OCD Solutions]

My collection is filling out nicely.



I haven't stopped fondling the C92 since I got it. My Rugers feel like toys now compared to this one.

Gonna order a couple more 15rd mags for it today and a couple more Pelican cases.

 

[Quinc]

My collection is filling out nicely.

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I haven't stopped fondling the C92 since I got it. My Rugers feel like toys now compared to this one.

Gonna order a couple more 15rd mags for it today and a couple more Pelican cases.

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Looking good! Just need a 1911 in there.