Liter motor dreaming...

[MADMAT]

I have a killer 713 with 190psi and modded 38's that rips hard......so I know that set up well.

No replacement for displacement....along with the proper set up. So 865>800 all day.

You guys that keep spitting "get over epoxy" are funny. You have no evidence that it is rock solid. I'm not saying its not but I would not just say get over it without questioning it.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Epoxy has been use to fill cases since the 80's.

I look forward to hearing more about epoxy holding up but because no one really has enough hours on epoxied motors to really really know I will probably just eat my fear of it and go with the TS kit.

 

[MADMAT]

Epoxy has been use to fill cases since the 80's.

For the 10th time...I KNOW THIS!!!!

But I have yet to see someone verify it holding up for 6+++ years!!

 

[Big Kahuna]

PM Tricky.

But to expect something, especially a Mod Motor to have a life of over 6 years is not realistic.


We all wish for this.

 

[MADMAT]

OEM cases last forever. I don't mind replacing cranks and rebuilding top ends but redoing epoxy is lame IMO.

 

[WaveDemon]

PM Tricky.

But to expect something, especially a Mod Motor to have a life of over 6 years is not realistic.


We all wish for this.

he didn't say he wanted the motor to last 6 years, just the epoxy. a stock stroke team scream motor could be bored and rebuilt every few years+ and last for a very long time.

 

[zwaysfs]

i callead x sxream a few days ago the price for the xs 1000 is 7700

 

[MADMAT]

i callead x sxream a few days ago the price for the xs 1000 is 7700

That is actually not horrible. A little/lot more than I have but not bad at all IMO.

Is that with new cases and carbs?

 

[MADMAT]

he didn't say he wanted the motor to last 6 years, just the epoxy. a stock stroke team scream motor could be bored and rebuilt every few years+ and last for a very long time.

exactly! A long long time=good bang for the buck....

But because I would not want to re do the epoxy myself it means I would have to send the cases out just to be re epoxied and that annoys me.

That is why I would prefer a stock stroke w/o epoxied cases IF possible.

 

[AtomicPunk]

Here is my question for you Mat.. do you REALLY expect to have this motor for 6++++ years? Heck in 2-3 years there will be something else out that everyone is going to be all gaga over.

 

[MADMAT]

Here is my question for you Mat.. do you REALLY expect to have this motor for 6++++ years? Heck in 2-3 years there will be something else out that everyone is going to be all gaga over.

Yes I do....I'm not like that. I have my hull for life....I have a great motor now. My last motor lasted forever.

If I get a 865 (or especially a 1000) you can BET YER ARSE I will have it for a long long long time.

I am not rich and I don't jump on the latest greatest.

 

[zwaysfs]

as far as i know thats crank cylinders and cases and intake if it came with carbs 7700would be well worth it

 

[steve-uk]

i doubt that includes carbs

 

[Idok]

exactly! A long long time=good bang for the buck....

But because I would not want to re do the epoxy myself it means I would have to send the cases out just to be re epoxied and that annoys me.

so, lets say you buy one of these monsters...and in 2-3-4 seaons it needs a rebuild

are you going to take it to any machine shop have them hogg it out and slap it back together, or are you going to send it back to TS and let them do it..?

if it goes to TS, it will get full broken down..inspected, and you can guarantee any issues would be addressed at that time.

 

[MADMAT]

Dok I have built 2 motors and they were/are solid. I have no fear of doing top end rebuilds and new cranks/seals. Super easy IMO. Epoxy in cases I would send out.

 

[MADMAT]

as far as i know thats crank cylinders and cases and intake if it came with carbs 7700would be well worth it

Yea I am thinking then same thing....drop in 1000cc for 7700! Minus pipe and electrics of course...

 

[steve-uk]

pretty sure the prices are approx this for a ss 865

kit - $3100
m/c & assy - $700
oem case/crank - $1500
oem seals & other parts- $200
boyseen intake/reeds/mod carbs $1500
flame arrestors $150

so thats around $7150

the team scream modded b-pipe is around $900

then you need your bed plates, electrics, flywheel cover

just to give approx $$ values

 

[Foximus]

No replacement for displacement....along with the proper set up. So 865>800 all day.

.

Eh..

Thats not quite true for 2 strokes.... There are Tons of replacements. lol.

 

[MADMAT]

along with the proper set up.

 

[Idok]

Dok I have built 2 motors and they were/are solid. I have no fear of doing top end rebuilds and new cranks/seals. Super easy IMO. Epoxy in cases I would send out.

no fear of them here, either...


I couldnt even tell you how many motors the crew has built here.....

20?
30?

proably more...


we have a boremaster in the garage..........



these are not stock motors though....big HP motors are different

custom squish
big pistons with tight tolerance
special cooling designs



Ive said it before and will again..

you can absolutey tell the difference between a pro built motor and a home built motor...EVEN WITH THE SAME PARTS!