Liter motor dreaming...

MADMAT

MADMAT

Location
Ohio
I honestly don't know as they were both bought used and it has been a while now. But I have it in my mind that epoxy in cases can not be forever permanent. And I have not heard anyone ever claim that it will last forever and ever....and for me that is not cool.....rebuilding a top end is no biggie but picking out epoxy and re doing it or worse yet it falling out under operation at some point and causing air leaks and nasty stators is ridiculous.

If TS tells me it is life long I will believe them but as of now does anyone REALLY know that to be fact?
 
Matt_E

Matt_E

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I haven't directly asked my builder about it (Art @ Jetworks), but he hasn't told me anything about it NOT lasting long, either.
I'll ask him next time I talk to him.
 
zeski25

zeski25

Location
Palm Beach, Fl
MADMAT said:
Even if that was true...I don't want to deal with re-epoxying cases along with those things.
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you should put new crank seals on your ski every year. why the hell are you so worried about the epoxy that your just going to have to reapply? pony up and by that sweet lil screamer
 
GIL

GIL

Power In The Hands Of Few
Location
Cullman AL
Foximus said:
If you ask me, if your gonna build a motor for looks and something you can open up and be proud of at a show. Go Xscream.

If you want something that is going to destroy anything else.... and mostly likley look close to "stock"


Jetworks.
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So I assume you made a decision?
 
MADMAT

MADMAT

Location
Ohio
zeski25 said:
you should put new crank seals on your ski every year. why the hell are you so worried about the epoxy that your just going to have to reapply? pony up and by that sweet lil screamer
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WHAT!? Dude I have gotten 10 years out of 2 motors and only replaced one front crank seal. And the only reason the first motor went is because I sank it in Daytona and then came home to a blizzard and let it sit. And even then I used a mallet and a piece of wood and some PB blaster to get the pistons moving and rode it another 12 tanks of gas until it blew.

I have never in all my years heard of anyone preemptively replacing crank seals every year.

I am worried about epoxy because as I said I have seen it deteriorate and need picked out and re done....and I ain't buying a 5k motor with epoxy unless I have no choice.

OEM cases are forever.
 
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Foximus

Foximus

CFL Cheapass.
Location
Oviedo, Fl
GIL said:
So I assume you made a decision?
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Yeap. Art talked me into switching Impellers. LoL.



What kinda Jaggoff talks a customer insterested in buying a motor into only buying blackjacks, then further talks him down to only swapping impellers.



Seriously though, hes the best.
 
wsuwrhr

wsuwrhr

Purveyor of the Biggest Brapp
Location
Alta Loma, working in Upland
MADMAT said:
How come the SB PRODUCTS cases are not compatible? Do they only work with DASA cylinders? Is a DASA motor a chit load more expensive than a TS?
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I have posted prices of DASA's motors(also with my cases) a few times.

My cases are setup for DASA's transfers, they could be made to use a factory type transfer area, or any other, but so far, there hasn't been enough demand to change the transfer area.

The nice thing about billet is they can be made in any configuration and changed on the fly to accomodate most anything.

Brian
 
MADMAT

MADMAT

Location
Ohio
"The nice thing about billet is they can be made in any configuration and changed on the fly to accomodate most anything."

Yea...that...AND ITS BILLET!!
 
Foximus

Foximus

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Oviedo, Fl
wsuwrhr said:
My cases are setup for DASA's transfers, they could be made to use a factory type transfer area, or any other, but so far, there hasn't been enough demand to change the transfer area.

The nice thing about billet is they can be made in any configuration and changed on the fly to accomodate most anything.

Brian
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That or just fill the auxilary transfer port bowl with epoxy.... lol :nana:
 
Foximus

Foximus

CFL Cheapass.
Location
Oviedo, Fl
MADMAT said:
"The nice thing about billet is they can be made in any configuration and changed on the fly to accomodate most anything."

Yea...that...AND ITS BILLET!!
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If it were up to me, Id rather have cast. Its a lot lighter, and more often than not you dont need the extra strength....
:Thinkingof_:​
 
MADMAT

MADMAT

Location
Ohio
LOL....NO!!

Seriously though...I am gonna get serious about this very soon...thanks for all of the input so far pepes!
 
Foximus

Foximus

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Location
Oviedo, Fl
over the area of a whole motor I believe it would add up to more than 3lbs...


maybe 3lbs difference for just the case....

and as always depends on the quality and contents of the casting, how much silica is in it etc....
 
wsuwrhr

wsuwrhr

Purveyor of the Biggest Brapp
Location
Alta Loma, working in Upland
Foximus said:
over the area of a whole motor I believe it would add up to more than 3lbs...


maybe 3lbs difference for just the case....

and as always depends on the quality and contents of the casting, how much silica is in it etc....
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Sorry, I thought you were talking about the cases.

HP to weight ratio, and location of the weight is much more important than the total number.

Brian
 
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