Power factor wet or dry pipe Vs RRP carbon wetpipe

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Somebody rides the outer jacket for chamber yet??? How does it work????
From what I hear, the outer skin works better with big bore motors. Don't know if it's true, but that's what I heard

Yep, its been done by the owner of a DASA 1100 I built, works well.
Tested it on a TPE 964 with a wet PFP that was not split open (so small inner) and made a substantial difference to bottom end according to the rider, no tuning either, just swapped the chambers and rode it.
He over rotated a few tricks before he got used to the change.

 

[George IV]

Hahaha that's awesome

 

[Kawastyler]

So i understand right:??? I tested it back to back on a TPE 964 and the outer jacket give a better bottom???? Loss a lot of topend????

Thanks, Andy

 

[Jr Freestyle]

Bump

 

[Henry Stephen]

There are 3 options for conversions?

Simple: plug water jacket inlet, inject @ manifold (do I leave stinger water injection? or reposition a new one)

Involved: same, remove outer chamber

More involved: same, but split and remove inner chamber

Is the difference of volume between 1 and 3 worth the extra time/money, or is the significant difference simply the conversion?

 

[EFI1200]

what would it hurt to leave the water cooling the jacket on the PFP? In other words does it need to be disconnected or could i leave it hooked up to keep the hood temps down. i ride in pretty warm water so my hood temps are warm enough that you can see light steam when you lift the hood off.

 

[masterblaster]

it defeats the purpose to run water in the jacket....the injection is controlling the internal temp in the pipe,this is what helps to change the speed of the wave in the pipe coming back to the motor to help it scavenge every lil bit in the lower rpm range where its very easy to lose most your intake charge out the exh port. very little water is needed injecting the pipe to keep it cool,when you run water to the stinger as well, it also makes the pipe much lighter when the jacket isnt full of water. the injected water is pushed out the exh almost immediately

 

[EFI1200]

So the jacket water isn't as effective as the wet pipe? and thats the reason for the attempt to change.

 

[GIL]

I really thought this bandwagon (that I jumped on as well), would have lasted longer than it has...............So to review 1 more time-we sold our B pipes, water boxes, and fuel tanks to buy all the PFP stuff and get REAL creative with fuel cells and we are now converting these 1500.00 pipes into B pipes...............This sport / hobby has more dam bandwagons than all other sports / hobbies combined. LMAO

 

[masterblaster]

less like a bandwagon and more like just a few people testing and finding out what works well for a given purpose,others just follow suit as it all gets better. the rrp large carbon wet pipe is takin the wetpipe to the next level

 

[XJCrawler]

I really thought this bandwagon (that I jumped on as well), would have lasted longer than it has...............So to review 1 more time-we sold our B pipes, water boxes, and fuel tanks to buy all the PFP stuff and get REAL creative with fuel cells and we are now converting these 1500.00 pipes into B pipes...............This sport / hobby has more dam bandwagons than all other sports / hobbies combined. LMAO

I'm sorry but your bpipe won't make the power of a pfp (wet or dry) on big motors. Has nothing to do with the bandwagon. If you have a big motor and want a wetpipe go rrp, if you want a dry pfp. Personally I prefer working on a ski with a laydown style pipe and fuel cell vs a bpipe ski. So that's another advantage

 

[WILKEY]

B pipes suck

 

[Henry Stephen]

My ($1100) PFP can perform like a ($XX) RRP pipe? shoot, I'll play the sax in this band.

 

[badvinny]

My ($1100) PFP can perform like a ($XX) RRP pipe? shoot, I'll play the sax in this band.

Don't know if it will perform exactly like the RRP pipe (I love the way the RRP feels on my 1100), the pfp will never be as light as the RRP, even with no water in the jacket, also the RRP fit like a dream unlike my pfp.

 

[XJCrawler]

My ($1100) PFP can perform like a ($XX) RRP pipe? shoot, I'll play the sax in this band.

A wet pfp doesn't hit like an rrp

 

[masterblaster]

probally not,but with the right pipe injection jetting a pfp is night and day off bottom and mid on alot of motor setups

 

[623pwr]

The only thing i dont like about the carbon is you have to watch for wear from cables, etc a little closer. Not sure how to repair the carbon if something happend. Where the PFP chamber can be welded. Thats why i went with the Trust tank(still put padding near chamber) vs an aluminum tank. The RRP is pretty damn nice though.
I'm sure both pipes do the job. It sounds like the more advanced you are the dry- wet doesn't matter as much.

 

[WILKEY]

I know the rrp is a great pipe. But we have the pfp hitting like a ton of bricks with a dasa. Rode it in the surf this past week and was amazed....

 

[masterblaster]

^ this is with a msd enhanser with 0 stator advance as well, with a TL it would rip your arms off in the surf injected like this

 

[Metske]

probally not,but with the right pipe injection jetting a pfp is night and day off bottom and mid on alot of motor setups

What is the right setup? (lines, jets, place on manifold...)