TNT v2 free ride production pipe

masterblaster

masterblaster

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Edelbrok is making the pfp mani rrp comes from same supplier. This one looks like same casting with diff size machined flange. Stamped pipe looks nice,price seems kinda close to a more difficult to produce stamped pfp dry pipe with a internal jacket. surprised the other billet manis aren't in market yet. Seems everyone is out waiting the next
 

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tntsuperjet

tntsuperjet

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Alum is much faster to weld and a lot cheaper material then stainless.
Plus you can make 10 times the number of parts from alum as it doesn't wear the dies.
You can make 1,000 plus parts with minimal wear when you stamp aluminum.
Be lucky to get 200 parts from the dies with stainless.
Then you have to way in the fact that the PFP was developed on factory pipes dime, Baxter paid no money out of pocket for the development of the pipe as it was made by FPP.
That sure helps lower the retail cost when you don't have hundreds of hours in development.

Also FPP owns the tooling for the manifolds. Edelbrok is just a foundry that cast them
 
LimitedSlip7

LimitedSlip7

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Marion, Ohio
tntsuperjet said:
Alum is much faster to weld and a lot cheaper material then stainless.
Plus you can make 10 times the number of parts from alum as it doesn't wear the dies.
You can make 1,000 plus parts with minimal wear when you stamp aluminum.
Be lucky to get 200 parts from the dies with stainless.
Then you have to way in the fact that the PFP was developed on factory pipes dime, Baxter paid no money out of pocket for the development of the pipe as it was made by FPP.
That sure helps lower the retail cost when you don't have hundreds of hours in development.

Also FPP owns the tooling for the manifolds. Edelbrok is just a foundry that cast them
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Just out of curiosity, what material are you making your dies from? That is incredibly short tool life, especially with as simple of a part as it is.
 
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tntsuperjet

tntsuperjet

Tntperformance-engineering.com
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LimitedSlip7 said:
Just out of curiosity, what material are you making your dies from? That is incredibly short tool life, especially with as simple of a part as it is.
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Plug iS alum and female is steel.
But once the female edges wear just a bit the pipe gets a bad wrinkle in it.
Thanks yami, he is correct.
Wanted to make it from alum but it just doesn't perform aS well.
 
Sasquachcrap

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How long would mild steel last. With or without ceramic coating?( if it would even make a difference). I thought I read where you wrote once before that the steel gave a little better performance but wouldn't last with saltwater?
 
LimitedSlip7

LimitedSlip7

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Marion, Ohio
tntsuperjet said:
Plug iS alum and female is steel.
But once the female edges wear just a bit the pipe gets a bad wrinkle in it.
Thanks yami, he is correct.
Wanted to make it from alum but it just doesn't perform aS well.
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Any reason why you don't use heat treated D2 or similar tool steel, besides material cost? You could try coating them too. We use a company called Eifeler to coat die sections for around $13 a pound I think. Their Duplex Variantic PVD coating is top notch, we've seen 500,000+ hits on deep draw dies before having to recoat.
 
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