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Whats the difference between the pro series and the freeride?
TNT v2 free ride production pipe
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Ducky
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- Charlotte, NC
tntsuperjet
Tntperformance-engineering.com
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- Georgetown ca
Matt, with a money back performance guarantee what's to ginny pig??
But there has been 3-4 on the x speak up.
But here an example. I put one on coung boat, Brandon Lawlor tried it and ask for one for his boat, he put one on and his brother bought two, then his sister. Then there hull maker ride it and bought two.
Then one of there customers rode it and bought one.
There hasn't been one person who bought one that his friends didn't buy one within a week.
I have sold 4 pipes to people on the X. And all 4 of them have spoken up.
There is to much drama on the X and a large percentage of people won't post here anymore because of all the keyboard super tuners!
But there has been 3-4 on the x speak up.
But here an example. I put one on coung boat, Brandon Lawlor tried it and ask for one for his boat, he put one on and his brother bought two, then his sister. Then there hull maker ride it and bought two.
Then one of there customers rode it and bought one.
There hasn't been one person who bought one that his friends didn't buy one within a week.
I have sold 4 pipes to people on the X. And all 4 of them have spoken up.
There is to much drama on the X and a large percentage of people won't post here anymore because of all the keyboard super tuners!
The setup we had in the SV1 at Surf Slam that Tim now has is TPE 964, PHP intake, mikuni 46's, msd enhancer, lightened OEM flywheel, TnT pipe and waterbox, Torrent 148 pump. I'll have to look at my notes for the prop size. I'll let Tim tell you what he thinks about the setup.
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Big Kahuna
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- Tuscaloosa, AL
Herb, Cleanup on aisle 4. Some customer is is on the rag and has sand in their VaJayJay.............. What a bloody mess.
Knock it the Puck Off
Knock it the Puck Off
tntsuperjet
Tntperformance-engineering.com
- Location
- Georgetown ca
I need to say this again.
TNT is no longer selling pipes retail.
We cannot offer the customer service people deserve and struggle to make shipping every day.
We are way behind schedule on our WF BUILDS and are trusting in our dealers to take on retail sales.
Also we are now out of manifolds for next 6-10 weeks.
Chambers and water boxes are 7-12 day turn around.
All our dealers either have pipes in stock or pipes on the way.
Blowsion, TPE, Thrust,
The pro series pipe will only be available through TPE After WF.
WE LIMIT the sales of these because they are complicated design and require expectional tuning exp to setup properly.
If your not a very miticulous tuner you will not get the true potential from the pipe.
The pro series injects water into 7 different locations and requires special tools to setup, tools being a 700 dollar digital pressure gauge, infrared heat gun and jetting knowledge
TNT is no longer selling pipes retail.
We cannot offer the customer service people deserve and struggle to make shipping every day.
We are way behind schedule on our WF BUILDS and are trusting in our dealers to take on retail sales.
Also we are now out of manifolds for next 6-10 weeks.
Chambers and water boxes are 7-12 day turn around.
All our dealers either have pipes in stock or pipes on the way.
Blowsion, TPE, Thrust,
The pro series pipe will only be available through TPE After WF.
WE LIMIT the sales of these because they are complicated design and require expectional tuning exp to setup properly.
If your not a very miticulous tuner you will not get the true potential from the pipe.
The pro series injects water into 7 different locations and requires special tools to setup, tools being a 700 dollar digital pressure gauge, infrared heat gun and jetting knowledge
tntsuperjet
Tntperformance-engineering.com
- Location
- Georgetown ca
Skipped a question.
Why don't I dyno the pipe when finished on a completely stock 701 when finished.
Ok let me spend 3 full working days setting up everything and dyno my pipe on an engine I have not sold one pipe for this year??
Not one of my free ride customers has a stock motor.
Only spec class race guys and this pipe doesn't fit.
But to be 100% honest.
I don't copy and print dyno sheet because it's a total waist of time.
Without all the data behind it there worthless numbers.
The only people who need to see a dyno chart in tuning are the guys who want to brag to there friends look what I got.
Some of the best tuners and rider in free ride have tested my pipe or bought one to test.
And everyone of them has ordered more after doing it.
That right there is the only ass dyno sheet I need to worry about.
Gonna throw this at the dyno number people.
For your dyno chart to help u do anything this is what you need to know
Where your wet line, what your pipe pressure peak is and what rpm, AFR of dyno VS your AFR
Pump torque load dyno water pressure and volume compared to your boat water pressure and volume.
The reason I say this is come mid winter when we change shop around I will post some pics of the dyno queen pipes we have built.
And then I will show you how badly they got there ass kicked on the water by pipes with considerably less peak power.
Why don't I dyno the pipe when finished on a completely stock 701 when finished.
Ok let me spend 3 full working days setting up everything and dyno my pipe on an engine I have not sold one pipe for this year??
Not one of my free ride customers has a stock motor.
Only spec class race guys and this pipe doesn't fit.
But to be 100% honest.
I don't copy and print dyno sheet because it's a total waist of time.
Without all the data behind it there worthless numbers.
The only people who need to see a dyno chart in tuning are the guys who want to brag to there friends look what I got.
Some of the best tuners and rider in free ride have tested my pipe or bought one to test.
And everyone of them has ordered more after doing it.
That right there is the only ass dyno sheet I need to worry about.
Gonna throw this at the dyno number people.
For your dyno chart to help u do anything this is what you need to know
Where your wet line, what your pipe pressure peak is and what rpm, AFR of dyno VS your AFR
Pump torque load dyno water pressure and volume compared to your boat water pressure and volume.
The reason I say this is come mid winter when we change shop around I will post some pics of the dyno queen pipes we have built.
And then I will show you how badly they got there ass kicked on the water by pipes with considerably less peak power.
Big Kahuna
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Tim, you need to go post a copy of this post in the Dyno thread going!!!!!!!!!!!!
tntsuperjet
Tntperformance-engineering.com
- Location
- Georgetown ca
BK, not worth it.
There is only a small amount of people on the X who purchase products.
This site is less then 1% of my sales. You try to help people on here but honestly I don't find the x overly successful in promoting anything.
But seems to be great place to BS.
IT REALLY IS A WAISTE OF MY TINE.to try and explain how successful our new pipe is at making leader board power that's is tunable and usable power for free ride.
It's like people think a high Hp free ride motor is totally different from a race motor.
The difference is one can take long term heavy loads and the other is never subjected to that type of punishment and can be setup little more aggressive
There is only a small amount of people on the X who purchase products.
This site is less then 1% of my sales. You try to help people on here but honestly I don't find the x overly successful in promoting anything.
But seems to be great place to BS.
IT REALLY IS A WAISTE OF MY TINE.to try and explain how successful our new pipe is at making leader board power that's is tunable and usable power for free ride.
It's like people think a high Hp free ride motor is totally different from a race motor.
The difference is one can take long term heavy loads and the other is never subjected to that type of punishment and can be setup little more aggressive
Big Kahuna
Administrator
- Location
- Tuscaloosa, AL
Tim, believe it or not. There are a lot of people who read and never post. Of the several people that you mentioned buying pipes, a good many are actually here. You just may not realize it. Yes, this is a great place to BS also, but your comments here are very appreciated mlby many and by me.
masterblaster
X-H2
Great things being said about this pipe by all who have tried it. Same was said of the rrp over the pfp though. Tim. Are u saying you used zero Dyno time developing this pipe ? 100% water testing only ? I think that Dyno thread only exists because some people would like to see what each diff motor or part added to a given setup would potentially produce over another in "usable" torque. Art at et did a very good job of that on his Dyno.... Must be the yr of the pipe and finally the manifold. Et and wdk and another have pipes and bigger billet and cast manifolds coming out for wf. I'd already have a tnt if there wasn't so many other things coming out to check out. With new ignitions and efi coming out soon. This yr looks like lots tech fun Props to all u guys takin it next level.
Small amount of people on here purchase products? I can't speak for everybody, but my only sponsor is my well exercised MasterCard.
1% of your sales from here? I tried 4x to purchase a waterbox, then a chamber from you with no response.
I've been around this industry for some time and have always respected your work. That being said, I'm glad that you have left the retail end up to the professionals like Thrust, blowsion, etc.
tntsuperjet
Tntperformance-engineering.com
- Location
- Georgetown ca
If you tried to buy pipe andneaterbox from me not sure why you couldn't get s response.
I just checked all my pm's and there isn't one from you.
I also looked through Facebook and see nothing there.
But I will be the first to say I suck as sales.
I spend 7 days a week 12-18hrs a day in the shop. Last few months we have had phone issues and couple weeks ago we got that all fixed. They finally ran a new phone line to the shop over head.
90% of the people who ordered pipes and water boxes got them within 12 days.
Jeff I answered your questions with 8-9 replies. And you know Steve and he had no issues getting a pipe and contacting me.
It's not like my number isn't published.
to get a pipe on order I posted several times how you would go about ordering.
Sending me a pm stating you want one doesn't give me contact info and a way to contact you outside the X.
I have a lot of people who say they want things but never come through.
DASA is now a dealer as well.
tntsuperjet
Tntperformance-engineering.com
- Location
- Georgetown ca
I just shipped one to Kyle Friday.
tntsuperjet
Tntperformance-engineering.com
- Location
- Georgetown ca
I didn't see any disrespect.
I just need to know things like you said.
Because I can't keep track of orders from so many different channels.
So let sales people deal with sales.
They email me PO.
We make ship. Easier for me to keep track
I just need to know things like you said.
Because I can't keep track of orders from so many different channels.
So let sales people deal with sales.
They email me PO.
We make ship. Easier for me to keep track
tntsuperjet
Tntperformance-engineering.com
- Location
- Georgetown ca
Master B.
That is exactly what I am saying.
The v1 and the v2 pipe was 100% developed in the. Water.
On 785cc, 880cc, 950cc and 1000cc motors.
In 5 different hull styles and 144,148,155 pumps.
All the data from testing was from on board data logger that monitor's, eng RPM, acceleration, eng temp, pipe temp and pipe pressure.
Backed up with stalker stats system.
Now we where able to come up with a great combo for prop, pipe jetting, water routing, pipe temps real world, nozzle size.
In the end result we can give you a great setup to go with our pipe not just a pipe in a box and say good luck.
Plus it's a lot more fun to ride a boat then a dyno.
We also able to data log combo tricks to find out where the biggest problems lie in why boats go flat after multiple combos. So as you can see we are pulling a lot of data from the same place our customers will be experiencing our products and this gives us a much better resource base to help people extract the most from our products.