Quinc
Buy a Superjet
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- California
Damn, was hoping thebuzzard was only a temp ban. Mark posted tons of great information and knew all of the obscure oddball pwc parts.
Why don't I ever see dyno's?
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Damn, was hoping thebuzzard was only a temp ban. Mark posted tons of great information and knew all of the obscure oddball pwc parts.
Tyrant1919
Site Supporter
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- Washington, DC
If anybody ever mentions thebuzzard around me, I make sure to tell them that he's really a big teddy bear. He's a good skier and indeed has a lot of knowledge. Not to mention a warehouse of ski parts we all wish we had.
On another note, this thread is wonderful.
On another note, this thread is wonderful.
Big Kahuna
Administrator
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- Tuscaloosa, AL
In person I bet he is. His attitude 9s what got me plus he was given a few warnings. He just has an abrasive personality online.
They do it to themselves, we all see it, then everyone is suppried
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- Saskatoon,SK
You pretend that you haven't been negative and say you are nothing but positive and everyone else is the bad guy.
Truth is this thread got closer than ever to getting Dyno results and you, only you chased of the only chance there was as Tnt started letting a little out. Then you peed him off so he ripped you one, you messed it up, accepting that is step 1!
This thread is a fine example of why tuners/vendors stay off the forum!
PS, let it die until next year!
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masterblaster
X-H2
BadV Calling bs on that one too. I did nothing but complement him as a tuner and the pipe as a product. Sorry if asking for factual torq curves compared to a pfp is more than some of you can handle. Only leaves the rest of us to wonder why ?
- Location
- Amherst NH
tnt said he would never give up dyno results in fear of opposition steeling his pipe design.
He also said dyno numbers are pretty useless to any of us in here cause we'd have no clue what to do with them except have peepee sword fights with the numbers.
He also said dyno numbers are pretty useless to any of us in here cause we'd have no clue what to do with them except have peepee sword fights with the numbers.
tntsuperjet
Tntperformance-engineering.com
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- Georgetown ca
There something else you guys have left out.
1- MB didn't pods me of at all.
I have thick skin and as long as people stay none personal I can take a good challenge all day long.
2nd. I can't post dyno numbers of engine builders who give me motors to develop pipes.
If I develop a pipe for my engines there very tuner oriented products and don't fit the mass requirements
So I took a new approach and developed a pipe on motors I have no idea what's inside other then there claimed cc size.
Is it fair for me to post a dyno curve of someone else's product on a dyno that has been modified from its original state to better serve a pump type drive load but has never had the proper calibrations done to read true corrected horse power??
But my dyno reads lower then anyone's I have compared to,but it is very repeatable and serves my purpose well.
But one thing MB, the only claim I make right now is we make 14 average horse power over RRP pipe.
2 less peak horse power then PFP.
WE HAVE THE BEST AVERAGE HORSE POWER.
Our pipe is very easy to tune and will cover a wider tune range then anyone pipe available.
If you want proof buy one. If it doesn't do what I say you get 100 refund.
That is no gadget or latest cutest dress at the dance.
That's what I can offer because I know if a tuner has any skills at all he will find the same results, and if they can't I don't want you to have my product and willing to buy it back.
1- MB didn't pods me of at all.
I have thick skin and as long as people stay none personal I can take a good challenge all day long.
2nd. I can't post dyno numbers of engine builders who give me motors to develop pipes.
If I develop a pipe for my engines there very tuner oriented products and don't fit the mass requirements
So I took a new approach and developed a pipe on motors I have no idea what's inside other then there claimed cc size.
Is it fair for me to post a dyno curve of someone else's product on a dyno that has been modified from its original state to better serve a pump type drive load but has never had the proper calibrations done to read true corrected horse power??
But my dyno reads lower then anyone's I have compared to,but it is very repeatable and serves my purpose well.
But one thing MB, the only claim I make right now is we make 14 average horse power over RRP pipe.
2 less peak horse power then PFP.
WE HAVE THE BEST AVERAGE HORSE POWER.
Our pipe is very easy to tune and will cover a wider tune range then anyone pipe available.
If you want proof buy one. If it doesn't do what I say you get 100 refund.
That is no gadget or latest cutest dress at the dance.
That's what I can offer because I know if a tuner has any skills at all he will find the same results, and if they can't I don't want you to have my product and willing to buy it back.
masterblaster
X-H2
wow bravo..much more informative to the average consumer. Alot of us me included prefer the rrp pipe over the pfp cause we know it makes its power in the lower range,but more importantly you can tune the water in the pipe to work with a broader range of setup in motor,ign,pump with out changing everything else around the pipe. Ive tinkered with the stinger recently and adding extra water close to the stinger,its pretty easy to tune. IT sounds like you have made a better mouse trap than the rrp with tuning ease in stainless material with better heat sig and water injected for quicker tuning,plus much less involved than building a dry pipe with a inner layer. Most will want to know how it stacks up to pfp in average hp
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- New Jersey
I have a question for the wise, how come that you say that no dyno can reproduce the load of a pump when it is easy to get a dyno with an electric generator as a load with programmable load curve/rpm input? It is totally possible to get a custom load from a dyno, but I accept that it would cost a bit of money. I just don't buy that this is an impossible feat, because it is not. A bigger hurdle is if there is a marked supporting the cost for such equipment
swapmeet
Brotastic
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- Arlington TX
Interesting... I never knew that was possible.
Can we stop making TNT the be all end all? He doesn't want to share his data, and thats fine, he shouldn't be pressured to supply the info. But he's not the only source in the universe. He builds pipes, not motors. And he's using this thread to market his pipes.
Look, If a engine builder creates a package and supports the performance with dyno data, more people will buy parts from that builder. It all works in favor of the riders as we get the best performing package. And it works out for the builders because they put in the effort to show how well their product performs and they get more business.
BTW Buzzard was abrasive as 40 grit sand paper on this forum. Definitely knowledgeable and no doubt could ride, but you can't kick sand at everyone who disagrees with you, especially the mods, and get to stay on the forum.
tntsuperjet
Tntperformance-engineering.com
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- Georgetown ca
Your absolutely right.
But here the problem.
I take data log of the boat on the water. Aka log how long it takes to go from idle to peak RPM.
Load that sweep time into the dyno and it take .83 seconds.
So you are trying to replicate dyno sweeps and get consonant data Ina sweet that is less then 1 second long.
I dont know what got him banned eventually, but it must of been pretty bad considering he threatened to shoot me in one post and didn't get banned.
tntsuperjet
Tntperformance-engineering.com
- Location
- Georgetown ca
I recently have gotten to know the buzzard, and I have a lot of hardware on our K1 triple build I collected parts from his bone yard.
I can see how he comes across as abrasive and harsh.
But he is a decent guy. He won't give his parts away by no means but he runs his parts sales like a business, the parts that are getting harder to get he charges higher dollar for.
But I have also learned something else about buzzard.
If you do something for him that he needs, he def returns the favor.
I will ask the powers above to un ban him.
I will be the first to say I have some data I don't want to give away.
Here are the things I have run across that bother me on the X
People who always take the negative way to attack you without the proper backing to be doing so.
People who use others knowledge as there own
I can see how he comes across as abrasive and harsh.
But he is a decent guy. He won't give his parts away by no means but he runs his parts sales like a business, the parts that are getting harder to get he charges higher dollar for.
But I have also learned something else about buzzard.
If you do something for him that he needs, he def returns the favor.
I will ask the powers above to un ban him.
I will be the first to say I have some data I don't want to give away.
Here are the things I have run across that bother me on the X
People who always take the negative way to attack you without the proper backing to be doing so.
People who use others knowledge as there own
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- Amherst NH
DAG
Yes, my balls tickled from that landing
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- Charlotte, NC
scottie mac
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STOP MAKING SENSE!
Haven't been over here in months, same old, same old. Few knowledgable folks posting (or trying) good info. Few more dingleberries jacking up these threads. Carry on.
Scottie
snowxr
V watch your daughters V
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- Waterford, MI
Here's what you've all been waiting for. A full comparison Dino chart. You're welcome. 
DAG
Yes, my balls tickled from that landing
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- Charlotte, NC
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- Amherst NH
I dont think all the exhaust temps are the same