I would cry lol then get yelled at by the wifey. That sucks dude...
Freestyle Xscream 865 Reminder to change wrist-pin bearings every 50 hours!!
- Thread starter dcptr
- Start date
- Location
- baldwin ny
no rust on his crank. it was the wrist pin bearing forsure. the other one was getting ready to fly apart also. some of the rollers were flat on the good bearing..just started to eat the rod. got me thinking about my 5mm stroker season #2 on that.humm time to ride the fixsteer with the 701 for now.
note dont try and run a motor that sounds like its "not running right" it will cost ya. bust out the rope and tow it in. you can save yourself some money.
note dont try and run a motor that sounds like its "not running right" it will cost ya. bust out the rope and tow it in. you can save yourself some money.
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steve-uk
Manners cost nothing
- Location
- Barrie - ontario
whats the official word from team scream on this? i see chuck posted but dont see what they are saying about this, is the deemed acceptable?
- Location
- Brigantine, NJ
Part # for sea-doo bearings??
I'm going to retrfit both of my 865s with sea-poo bearings when I can.
I'm going to retrfit both of my 865s with sea-poo bearings when I can.
OCD Solutions
Original, Clean and Dependable Solutions
- Location
- Rentz, GA
Updated Seadoo part# 420832553 (superceded by 290832552)
I thought the same thing last night and searched around a bit last night for some. Best price I found was $17.97.
I actually have 4 of the caged bearings on the shelf left over from my 951. They only have a couple hours on them but they are cheap enough that one should really just buy them new.
The cageless bearings can be a pain but a smear of grease will hold everything in place and make it much easier. I had plenty of failures on my 951 and the wrist pins were never ever an issue; caged or uncaged.
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SeaDoo Part # 420832553 replaces part# 290832552
BruceSki
Formerly Motoman25
- Location
- Long Island
nope it is aluminum dust from the rod banging around. pics were with an iphone so they are crappy.
BruceSki
Formerly Motoman25
- Location
- Long Island
I don't ride any flat water either. 7 gallons through it everytime I ride and I pin it to win it all over. none of this brap brap brap brappppppp stuff for me.
Freakrider
X247
- Location
- Tampa Bay area
Anyone have a pic and link to this part ? Updated Seadoo part# 420832553 (superceded by 290832552)
So what kind of wrist pin bearing that went out ? A new bearing should out last a piston as long as it has good lubrication. I've had a few cranks go on me over the years but never a wrist pin bearing
Detonation is evil. May as well hit the top of your piston with a SledgeHammer.
Detonation is evil. May as well hit the top of your piston with a SledgeHammer.
- Location
- Long Island, New York
I have nothing to say. You should have waited for me to tow you in. We could have tow tested it. I have a big bore for you if you need
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BruceSki
Formerly Motoman25
- Location
- Long Island
here is what the good rod looked like.
and the money shot
and the money shot
Wow! Spinning image of what mine looked like!
I'm 20 hours in on my motor now, but I'm a lil paranoid about the crank bearing on the coupler side. After a 10+ min ride, my coupler (engine side) gets hot as! I can grab and hold it only for around 4-5 seconds! Is this something to worry about? After what I went thru already, I don't mind stripping the motor down again to fix a potential problem like this.
I guess the lesson about these motors are: be prepared to take it out/strip down and maintain to the absolute finest detail. If something doesn't feel right while riding, unexpected stall, power loss etc, cut it and tow it in!!!
Although a mate just pulled his 865 down for a rebuild, had 250 hours on it, only running bpipe, msd though.. Apparently he pulled it at exactly the right time, evident cracks were found in the wrist pin bearing cages!
I'm 20 hours in on my motor now, but I'm a lil paranoid about the crank bearing on the coupler side. After a 10+ min ride, my coupler (engine side) gets hot as! I can grab and hold it only for around 4-5 seconds! Is this something to worry about? After what I went thru already, I don't mind stripping the motor down again to fix a potential problem like this.
I guess the lesson about these motors are: be prepared to take it out/strip down and maintain to the absolute finest detail. If something doesn't feel right while riding, unexpected stall, power loss etc, cut it and tow it in!!!
Although a mate just pulled his 865 down for a rebuild, had 250 hours on it, only running bpipe, msd though.. Apparently he pulled it at exactly the right time, evident cracks were found in the wrist pin bearing cages!
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BruceSki
Formerly Motoman25
- Location
- Long Island
My other bearing was very close to letting go also. Maybe 150 hours on the motor? 1 season of riding.
I just bought an hour meter for it. Wish I had one before this.
I just bought an hour meter for it. Wish I had one before this.
- Location
- New York Crew
Dcptr what was the Wiseco part number?
I'll get back to you on that. I think they are custom wiseco pistons, just for xscream motors. I enquired getting these pistons through wiseco dealers down here but none could help me out. AJSP (our xscream distributor) were they only ones who could get these piston kits in. They include piston, pin, Bearing and clips. I'm on 88mm at the moment, which makes it an 845cc I believe..
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shawn_NJ
Chasing waves.
- Location
- Daytona Beach
As I told you in PM. I ordered everything to replace my wrist pin bearings with the cageless seadoo ones chucky suggested. I'd say I have just about the same amount of hrs on my motor, and bought it at the beginning of last season too. I'll post up pics of what mine look like once I get the old ones out. The first pic with the wear on the good rod is def concerning.
I was thinking it was time for an hour meter as well.
- Location
- california delta
Is this wrist pin bearing problem associated with only the X-Metal motor or are the DASA people seeing this issue as well?
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100 hrs on a watercraft two stroke is a lot, not uncommon but alot. Now your asking an engine to put out double the power and still maintain the same reliable running time. These engines require more attension to their running condition than a lightly modded 701, so if your running one you should also understand that your going to have to invest in replacement and wear parts more frequently. Racers understand this very well, freeride/freestylers need to learn this. If you don't understand this concept then maybe you should not run one of these types of engines. Not meaning to sound harsh but it is a reality. Some of our race motors required piston changes after only 3hrs of run time, and the factory race teams replaced pistons after a heat.
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