Okay so I think that I've got it all figured out what I'm gonna order. Im gonna get 1/2 gal of 3:1 epoxy, 2 yards of 1708, 3 yards of 8.5, 3 yards of 10, 2lbs of 1/4" chopped mat, and some 404. Will the chopped mat even be nessecary if using the 404 tho?