WaveDemon
Not Dead - Notable Member
- Location
- Hell, Florida
not to mention the length of the comp. I'm cool with it either way though. I'm stoked. I'd love to give it a try.
I'm curious about the compulsory tricks too. what would be required?
I'm curious about the compulsory tricks too. what would be required?
jetskier79
I'm goin' for two
- Location
- San Diego, CA
Oh, and I forgot to chime in on the topic of sitdown/standup. I personally feel like there is no way in hell the two can be judged equally/fairly. A backflip on a blaster aint no way no how the same as a backflip on a SJ.
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yamaslut
Guest
please discuss it w/ some of the guys over there.. this is by no means a ONLY EAST COAST PEOPLE!!! We want EVERYONE here... French, Brazillians.. whoever.
I think you may be correct about two riders... I see no problem w/ that format, but head to head is not good IMO
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PancakePete
Guest
I think one at a time is best !
Safety, personal skills, different riding, not taking away from the other person, and to get a true judging !
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yamaslut
Guest
points taken on the sitdown/standup competing together... we are just throwing ideas out...
I agree it's not the same. I just don't want to discourage B1 riders... I guess they will be in a different class..
What about 24/7 conversions?? are they "standups"???
I agree it's not the same. I just don't want to discourage B1 riders... I guess they will be in a different class..
What about 24/7 conversions?? are they "standups"???
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PancakePete
Guest
I would also like it to be one monster east coast event !
especially if we going to have it international !
I think getting out here with or without skis is huge $$$
and should be rewarded !:biggthumpup:
back to work, I will check this later ! Thank you all for your info !
especially if we going to have it international !
I think getting out here with or without skis is huge $$$
and should be rewarded !:biggthumpup:
back to work, I will check this later ! Thank you all for your info !
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yamaslut
Guest
the only thing about it is time... I'm not sure we would have time for that. How about we decide based upon the amount of entries
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yamaslut
Guest
yeah.... a tour woud be down the road... Dirty Jersey is the perfect spot for the Inagural (sp)
Idok
F1pro
- Location
- Nations oldest muthaF+++kin city
absotlutely they are standups.....they are both superjets!
funny about all the conversion talk.....
"ok guys...you really need to let butti and wavedemon play too..."
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
WaveDemon
Not Dead - Notable Member
- Location
- Hell, Florida
well, I have one and I'd expect it to be in the class of all the rest of the standups. same hull size and no seat.
Frosty
New York Crew
- Location
- Western New York
If you were going to run more than one rider at a time, you could overcome the fairness of scoring (meaning some tricks could get missed because a judge was watching a different rider) by expanding the judge list.
In other words, 5 judges scoring two riders... one or two judges might miss some stuff, but say 10 judges scoring two riders, well the likely hood that the majority missed someone's trick is slimmer. Then after each heat, both riders scores from each judge are tallied, and the highest and lowest scores for each rider are tossed.
I don't know what the hell I'm saying here... just throwing out some ideas that might help someone to come up with a cool plan.
In other words, 5 judges scoring two riders... one or two judges might miss some stuff, but say 10 judges scoring two riders, well the likely hood that the majority missed someone's trick is slimmer. Then after each heat, both riders scores from each judge are tallied, and the highest and lowest scores for each rider are tossed.
I don't know what the hell I'm saying here... just throwing out some ideas that might help someone to come up with a cool plan.
WaveDemon
Not Dead - Notable Member
- Location
- Hell, Florida
I'm pretty sure they sold a couple more than 2. besides after butti and I start showing people what these ski's are all about I'd hope to see some more out there. Isn't anyone else tired of the size of there blaster?
WaveDemon
Not Dead - Notable Member
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- Hell, Florida
do you take the top 10 tircks per run to make up a score or do you count all of them?
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PancakePete
Guest
that is why I made the post is to get all info !
But I truely think that 2 at a time is not as good, but lets see what all peeps think, i am open to all things, and i think it would be awesome to setup for big backys together but what if that person does not feel safe throwing big shiot next to or with someone... i dont know, we will see !
WaveDemon
Not Dead - Notable Member
- Location
- Hell, Florida
you can always adjust that the day of the comp. depending on turnout or slots abvailable.
It would be better to include more people than limit the field based on time with a limit of one rider at a time. think about all the people who felt snubbed at pismo when there was a field of 16. if you attract world wide talent locals will get bumped quick.
jetskier79
I'm goin' for two
- Location
- San Diego, CA
I can't wait for the day the blaster gods smite thee. HERETIC!
okey: Typically there is a large enough riding area to accomidate two riders. They don't have to be attached at the hip through the whole heat. But as mentioned before, from a spectator standpoint, one rider is booooooorrring. Setup for BR, Splash, wait for rider to come out from behind wave, wait for next wave.....If you want to make this more spectator friendly than racing, it needs to have more or less non-stop action in the water. Sometimes even two riders gets boring.
Frosty
New York Crew
- Location
- Western New York
yeah, I caught that after I re-read your post. Not sure if it would eliminate that or not... just throwing out some ideas...
Who here has participated in judging any comps? Maybe some feedback from a judges perspective might help.
FL-cracker
X-H2O
- Location
- old exit 72 Melbourne
I would be less nervice with another rider out there with me. I think it would be better fro the crowd as well.
jetskier79
I'm goin' for two
- Location
- San Diego, CA
are you drunk this morning?
Takeastand SJ
R.I.P. 8/9/2008
- Location
- Washington
Great idea guys, we need more freeride comps. If this comes together I would definately consider coming out that way. No later than amonth before the comp the schedule and riders should be announced with no changes.
Judging: no one has seemed to figure out the best way to judge a surf comp yet, everyone rides a little differently in the surf thus thinks the judging should be more on surf, jumps etc. The main thing is to not have bias judging, you need a judge from different parts of the country, different background etc. My thought would be 3 judges, a jetskier from Westcoast, jetskier from East, and someone on the outside like a surfer or motocross guy. You don't want 3 judges from Florida all wanting slut to win (no offense slut just using you as an example), that isn't fair to his competitor. No throwing scores out the window, points are calculated after each round. The surf can change in a hour so the scores need to be on what the rider did with his conditions.
Who ever plans the event / puts the event on whatever you call it should not compete. I could care less but the spectators all think thats wierd.
Jet ski and Blasters need to be in different classes not judged together. They can do different tricks, if it is small surf a jet ski can backflip and a blaster can't making that unfair.
The "event" is critical to our success. We need spectators to enjoy coming to freeride comps. There needs to be music/DJ and a good announcer that can acurately tell whats going on and keep the crowd involved. The schedule needs to be kept on track. A flier would be cool that has all of the competitors info so the crowd knows what is going on. The venue is critical, someplace with lots of exposure and other things to do is nice for crowds.
Water rescue is very critical there needs to be atleast two couches on the water at all times, 3 would be better. Each couch needs tow ropes and rescue boards, I have bad stories of what happens when either isn't met. They need 2 way radios with a guy on the beach because sometimes the rescue people can't see it all. There needs to be a meeting with the rescue team and promoter after each round to make sure everything is going as planned. There also needs to be 3 to 4 guys moving skis in and out of the surf for the competitors with 2 dedicated carts.
The trick idea is good but kinda goes against the grain of freeride. There should be a limit on riders, the crowd needs to be kept entertained. I don't like the idea of limiting riders but the line has to be drawn between a freeride and freeride competition.
Having sponsors pay the prize money is cool, good luck.
These are just ideas on my past experiences and I hope this all comes together.
Judging: no one has seemed to figure out the best way to judge a surf comp yet, everyone rides a little differently in the surf thus thinks the judging should be more on surf, jumps etc. The main thing is to not have bias judging, you need a judge from different parts of the country, different background etc. My thought would be 3 judges, a jetskier from Westcoast, jetskier from East, and someone on the outside like a surfer or motocross guy. You don't want 3 judges from Florida all wanting slut to win (no offense slut just using you as an example), that isn't fair to his competitor. No throwing scores out the window, points are calculated after each round. The surf can change in a hour so the scores need to be on what the rider did with his conditions.
Who ever plans the event / puts the event on whatever you call it should not compete. I could care less but the spectators all think thats wierd.
Jet ski and Blasters need to be in different classes not judged together. They can do different tricks, if it is small surf a jet ski can backflip and a blaster can't making that unfair.
The "event" is critical to our success. We need spectators to enjoy coming to freeride comps. There needs to be music/DJ and a good announcer that can acurately tell whats going on and keep the crowd involved. The schedule needs to be kept on track. A flier would be cool that has all of the competitors info so the crowd knows what is going on. The venue is critical, someplace with lots of exposure and other things to do is nice for crowds.
Water rescue is very critical there needs to be atleast two couches on the water at all times, 3 would be better. Each couch needs tow ropes and rescue boards, I have bad stories of what happens when either isn't met. They need 2 way radios with a guy on the beach because sometimes the rescue people can't see it all. There needs to be a meeting with the rescue team and promoter after each round to make sure everything is going as planned. There also needs to be 3 to 4 guys moving skis in and out of the surf for the competitors with 2 dedicated carts.
The trick idea is good but kinda goes against the grain of freeride. There should be a limit on riders, the crowd needs to be kept entertained. I don't like the idea of limiting riders but the line has to be drawn between a freeride and freeride competition.
Having sponsors pay the prize money is cool, good luck.
These are just ideas on my past experiences and I hope this all comes together.