davidescu_radu
sea riders
- Location
- Constanta,Romania
DIY Total loss or MSD TL upgrade box 270USD?
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davidescu_radu
sea riders
- Location
- Constanta,Romania
Or maybe what is the zeel brain that's working with the new total loss stators/flywheels/coils?
waxhead
wannabe backflipper
- Location
- gold coast
At this stage I do not know of a unit that will work with that
- Location
- sonoma county
Would I be able to run my 62t stator flywheel with a zeeltronic pdcis-ao2t
No, you would need the new version that is compatible with that stator and flywheel.
davidescu_radu
sea riders
- Location
- Constanta,Romania
what's the latched stop switch? on the new pdcis-02t
waxhead
wannabe backflipper
- Location
- gold coast
Lateched means when you push the stop switch it stay off, before you used to have to hold the switch down until it stopped
joecef
Live fast, Die Fat
- Location
- Canada, EH
Has anyone used these on a php898 engine? My msd tl brain died. I purchased the A02T, I’m wondering about curves. And how’s it compared to a tl set up. My plan is to find another flywheel and run it tl and lightened, and another just lightened.
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joecef
Live fast, Die Fat
- Location
- Canada, EH
I’ve messaged him, he’s got so much going on and almost impossible to get a hold of now.
What’s your set up?
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Just run the exact curve you had on the MSD. It will perform exactly the same. Make sure total timing is in by 1500-1800 rpm. If you aren’t sure what’s on the MSD you will have to measure your static timing and then check your dip switches against the MSD manual. Happy to help if you aren’t sure how to do that.
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joecef
Live fast, Die Fat
- Location
- Canada, EH
I appreciate it. I’ll shoot you a message when I get to that point. Zeel showed up today. Been waiting 2 months for this bad boy
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TehXshizzit
#Killer City Rippers
- Location
- H816
So I randomly loss spark on my 760 that has a zealtronic cdi....ski has been sitting for a month due to winter season, and I go and start it up from time to time. Started before I put it away and now it has no spark. Any way of testing it? Or suggestions.
joecef
Live fast, Die Fat
- Location
- Canada, EH
Don’t forget to check your grounds. Water and electrical don’t mesh well. I’m going to assume you have some corrosion somewhere causing it not to get either power or ground
But as stated above. Battery and fuses as well.
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But as stated above. Battery and fuses as well.
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waxhead
wannabe backflipper
- Location
- gold coast
Are you the same person I am talking to in face book
- Location
- Spring Lake, MI
If you have the programming cable you can narrow down the issue to either the cdi, stator side, or coil/wires side.
TehXshizzit
#Killer City Rippers
- Location
- H816
Not sure....Chris M? Would be dope for you to add me lol I have questions.
waxhead
wannabe backflipper
- Location
- gold coast
Chris, yup you are talking to me on there. I was the one explaining how to test the ignition with the programmer
Good point about the battery importance, but it is just one piece in the system, the power and ground cables as well as all connections to them and to cases need to be on point also. High resistance connections, corrosion, internal cable breakdown, etc. can create high resistance and cause voltage drops when starting. Starter relay/solenoids over time can have high internal resistance from arcing and be an issue as well.
It's strange because my experience is that it's kind of amazing that the thing will start with such a sketchy battery. I've had several times where it went "ruh.......ruh...ruh ruh ping da ding ding ding" and I completely did not expect it to start when it could barely turn over. I would have said if you have enough juice to turn the motor over at all the zeel will fire based on what I've seen.
I'm not so sure you need 9 volts to get spark, I think that is the minimum voltage for full spark energy, and even then it seems like it would depend on rpm (capacitor has to charge faster to have full spark energy at higher rpm). I have never made an attempt to see how low the voltage can go and still get spark though.
On the flip side, it does seem like the zeel has more parasitic loss than a stock ignition and sitting long periods will drain the battery, (thus why I have been in situations to try to start with a low battery), even the 02t which was supposed to have less drain than the 01t. I have never used the A02t so can't comment on that.
I'm not so sure you need 9 volts to get spark, I think that is the minimum voltage for full spark energy, and even then it seems like it would depend on rpm (capacitor has to charge faster to have full spark energy at higher rpm). I have never made an attempt to see how low the voltage can go and still get spark though.
On the flip side, it does seem like the zeel has more parasitic loss than a stock ignition and sitting long periods will drain the battery, (thus why I have been in situations to try to start with a low battery), even the 02t which was supposed to have less drain than the 01t. I have never used the A02t so can't comment on that.